Wednesday, June 10, 2009

man (as tao, hindi as lalake) is the center of the solar system

it's 2 something in the morning, 'just finished reading ricky lee's para kay B
it's awesome!

ricky lee knows the mainstream, of course. but as well have that indie spirit of being meaningful. u can remember his works with brocka, bernal and other notable directors of the past. of
course, many of his works (as writer, and later creative consultant for abs-cbn series) are wanting (if not outright lowly). but i am hell sure that he knows it. that there are quite a number of works ur doing for the money. truth to tell (and im not ricky lee), that majority of what i've written for abs-cbn, gma and some other networks or magazine are bullshit and shameful. but i need it to keep afloat. it is still writing, at least. yes, consuelo de bobo!

anyway, going back to ricky lee's novel (his first).. im glad that i was able to read it. my long-time passion of writing (a novel) has its desire again burning after reading a good book. i will fuckin' write!
of course, there are some wazzup segments that i am cool and telling friends that i did it. or my edit in pinoy mano-mano. its core market is male so we were allowed to peg it dirty and raw. but teleserye (like kung fu kids).. my god! i rest my case. i just hope that this post will not be read by my bosses in a.b.s.. :)

save to a few (very few) that had some rawness and/or with mtv-polished edit, majority of my eat bulaga segments are thankfully anonymous. and of course, i understand, its target market dictates that we were ought to give that certain taste. 

and while at it, reading para kay B, im listening to eraserheads. no doubt the 90's, my generation's, music definition of cool, depth and mainstream success. so successful that until now, their music still echoes the warmth it had way back the last decade.
pero konti lang ang ganun na nakakaalam ng kung papano ikakasal ang lalim ng indie at ang mahalagang komunikasyon ng mainstream school of thought. 

ang mainstream, pokpok na pokpok. masyadong subo. masyadong binobobo ang masa. ang indie films naman ngayon, masyadong masturbation lang. self-serving. ang direktor lang at writer ng certain na pelikulang yun ang nakakaintindi ng gusto nilang sabihin. that it's too personal na sana sila na lang ang nanood. 

when was the last time u saw a good-meaningful indie film that audience can relate? syempre hindi tayo pare-pareho ng taste pero kung ako tatanungin nyo, Maximo Oliveros is one. May importanteng laman at may tamang timpla para ma-interest ang audience. syempre hindi ko naman lahat nasundan at napanood lahat ng indie films na lumalabas ngayon, pero yung iba pa na mga napapanood ko.. either parang xtension lang ng star cinema at regal (hindi naman indie ang spirit, mga cliche na story pa den naman) o kaya'y nagpapanggap na indie (hindi naman indie.. digital lang. yes, like viva and regal) o kaya nama'y mga indie talaga (ang budget and ang depth) pero hanggang dun na nga lang.. meaningful na sana, may napakagandang gustong sabihin pero (at malaking PERO).. boring naman. sinong manonood nyan? mga kamag-anak? kahit pa kamag-anak, aantukin den!

and going back to para kay B and eraserheads.. dalawa sa kokonting kasal ng lalim at communication.
and you know the direction im going now..
it will always be my fervent hope that soonest, all artists (and yes, communication students) will realize that arts can not be a sustainable endeavor that can keep us afloat if we continue doing indie the mowelfund way or the cinemalaya way. lalo nating inilalayo si aling bebang kung patuloy tayong gagawa ng mga makakabuluhang pelikula pero nakakantok. si aling bebang ang bibili ng tiket o ng mga pirated na kopya ng mga pelikula at palabas natin kung magugustuhan nila. kung hindi sila aantukin! arts for arts sake na lang ang mangyayari kung hindi tayo bubuhayin (financially) ng passion natin :(

mga cultured na mga matrona, may hawak na wine at may kasamang maliit na aso; mga anak ng mayayaman na nakakapamasyal sa broadway, makikinis ang balat at may pekeng twang; o kaya'y ang mga tropang artists ng gumawang artists -- sila! ..sila na lang.. yes, ang mga "cultured" (with quote, unquote sa cultured) ang magpapalakpakan sa mga palabas kahit nakakaantok, ang magtatapikan sa balikat at magpupurihan kung hindi natin ibubuka ang arts. 

anyway, u4a.. sorry to keep you waiting :) ..here's your assignment number 1: write an article (of your choice).
so choose only one topic. 
(1) an article about piracy. don't ask me what 
about piracy. write it. anything that u want to say about piracy. maybe piracy is not what i will be looking more. but your writing rhythm, balls and sincerity. don't fuckin bombard me with dogma that ur hearing on radio and tv. write what your fuckin mind and your fragile heart is sayin. same's true with other choices and items. (2) an article about mainstream movies and TV shows in compare and/or contrast with indie films (3) comment(s) to this post. the whole article. not only what i have said above but other things after this line. this whole post. not this whole blogspot of posts past, of course :)

take note of this. this certain assignment will not be submitted in hard copy. but i will read it as comment(s) here in the blogspot. kahit alin ang piliin nyo sa mga choices na sinabi ko (we have three), d2 nyo ilalagay sa blogspot as comment(s). please don't forget to include your full-real names :) 

and to continue my senseless musings..

71 deaths
6 days a week
one freakin' show!

yes, you know what im talking about. 

but that's not part of what i will be discussing :)

anyway.. to continue, bago ko pa malimutan.. u3a, for radio prod.. your assignment number 1.. submit a radio drama (narrative) concept. individual. yes, per student. we know what we are looking for.. kug tv man yan, or radio or dyaryo.. let's consider its USP and UUESP. please don't tell me that u were absent nung pinagusapan yan. pero sasbihin ko na den. usp is unique selling point. uuesp is unique, universal emotional selling point. lahat ng kwento ay love story kahit ano pang genre! nagpapatayang action na love ang pinaghuhugutan, mga nagmumulto at nakaktakot na monster dahil may emotional needs. etc.. etc.. walang character na tumatawa lang at sumisigaw ng "masama ako hahaha!" ,lahat ng tao, akala nila, sila ang bida. may mga pagkakamali nga lang sa decision in life. pero lahat ng character ay lovable characters. hindi cardboard characters.

u3b,
the group of louben: ayusin nyo yung take-off point. yung itinakas ni mudraks ang kanyang anak chenes. as i said kanina, medyo hindi believable sa audience ang emotional logic na kukunin ang bunso at iiwan yung 5 years old. either ibahin nyo or ayusin nyo. so dz thursday, pati na den yung sinasabi nyong twists and turns ng istorya.. kahit storyline pa lang.. submit nyo na den :)
the group of neeks: okay yung idea ni jofra na simula sa uspaan nung pudraks ni babae and pudraks ni lalake, may papatayin. i-consider nyo yung mga sinabi ko like kung may reveal sa character, sana dun den lang yung reveal sa audience para sabay si character at ang audience na makaramdam ng kung anumang emosyon yun. submit it this thursday den. yung revised chenes nyo. storyline. yung kanina, actually, hindi lang concept yun.. storyline na yun. so ganun ulet, this time revised na :)
the group of chrizel: gawan nyo na ng sequence treatment. sequence treatment is script na wala pang dialogue. kung kaya nyo na this thursday, maganda :) kung hindi pa kayang tapusin, at least masimulan na (kasi una naman kayo e).. pagtulungan nating buuin ang sequence treatment this thursday. 

sa groups nina neeks and louben, once na okay na ang concept and storyline.. sequence treatment na den :)

sa mga absent.. you know what u have to bring should you decide na pumasok this thursday :) 

u4a, pag-uusapaan den natin ang charcters and stories.. paguusapan den natin ang UUESP and USP and other chenes soon, sooner, soonest :)

u3a, you will pass your assignment 1, last day of our class this week. so kung t-th kayo, meaning thursday (or before). kung m-w-f, friday. same with u4a, you will be posting ur assignment the last class day of the week. u4a in this blogspot as comments and u3a, u3b in hard copy.

anyway.. lumalalim na ang gabi'y hindi hinuhukay..
kita kits na lang sa klase..
sorry for my senseless and time-consuming rants :) im not in my (writing) rhythm today kaya ganyan :) ..diesel pare! diesel! ..it can take a while bago umarangkada :)

,my past students know this.. in dimaiology class, you don't have to study. you just have to listen (and talk). and of course, you need to be there :) don't absent yourself.

at habang ninanamnam ko pa ulet ang para kay B, at nakikinig ng minsan, harana, suntok sa bwan, pare ko, at iba pang 3H3ADS music.. iniisip ko den na sana'y wala sa atin ang magka-swine flu, sana'y kung wala man kayong matutunan sakin this sem.. sana'y ma-entertain kayo :) ..iniisip ko den.. napanood nyo na kaya ang part 3 (the latest) ng maricar - hayden scandal, the maui taylor scandal (hindi pa nababalita sa tv, mas una ako sa balita hehe), alam nyo kaya na digital broadcast na ang buong U.S. na nag-start last week, etc etc..

iniisip ko den pala na siguro, ako pa lang ang may ako mismo dog tag sa buong lasalle lipa :) hehe :)

madami pa akong iniisip pero it is either too green or too dramatic that it shouldn't be here. at least in this post. at least, for the time being. 

fuck shet! hindi na relevant! haha :) 

kita kits! :)

and welcome u4a! :)

and welcome back u3a and u3b! :) 

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Anonymous anna mae rosales "animae"-u4a said...

it's quite surprising..i mean, nakakagulat ung katotohanang sinabi ninyo about mainstream and indie..mainstream-bobong bobo,"binobobo ang masa" and indie na merong nagpapanggap, etc.

hmm, the last time na nanuod akoh ng sine was last week.nuod akoh ng "drag me to hell". hindi po sya horror para sa akin.i thought it was cheesy and grows..yes, nakakabigla sya but still, it's not a good horror movie.the last local movie that ive seen was shake rattle and roll X.uhm, that was december last year..itwas a good movie because it had a good story, and nakakatawa tlga ang hot na hot na marian rivera dun.. i thought she can make more movies or seryes in that comic role..

what's my point?
bago ang point koh, i would like to say na i only watch movies(sa cnehan)every once in a while..i will only spend 100+php sa cnehan if i know na mgnda tlga ang movie(maganda in a sense na ok ang storya at ok ang technicalities..).

sir, i just like to say na nakakadisappoint na nga tlga ang mainstream..
maliban na lang po sa valkyrie ni tom cruise..though mejo bgo sya, for me, isa syang "good-meaningful" movie because of its historical value..but then again, the people of russia wrote that story at hindi ang eheads..

i agree po na mganda ang maximo oliveros..pero ok din po ang kubrador at and icu bed #5(di koh po sure kung aun nga ang title)..hmm, sir, hindi po ba lahat ng iniair sa tv ay my bayad at binabayadan?napersuade niyo na po akohna parang extension nga lang ng regal at viva ang inidie..

pero sir, kelan po kaya mangyayari na hindi na nakakabobo ang mainstream?kelan maiisip ng indie film makers na hindi dpt maging vain ang kanilang movies?

ngmimistulan pala sir na facebook account ang indie films..habang ang mainstream nagiging swine flu o (mas appropriate) nagiging mistulang junkfood na (curls) hindi nakakatulong sa pagnourish sa mga bata ..

kagulo sir nareh, pero it's up to you to judge my article..

anna mae rosales
"animae"
-u4a

kayo na po bahala mgjudge

June 16, 2009 6:56 PM


dima said:

shake, rattle and roll x is magandang movie.. hmm.. surprising :) and because u said that, papanodin ko :) matagal na kasi ako hindi nakakapanod ng magandang local film :) 


yez, ako den.. matagal na ako hindi nakakapanod sa sinehan. as in matagal na matagal na :) ..may pirated na ksing dvd na mura and maganda naman ang quality. syempre, medyo hinid ganun kaganda ang quality ng mga 9-in-1, pero yung isang movie lang sa isang dvd, maganda ang copy. and ngayon, may mga copy form blue ray! fuck! ..ang gaganda ng copy. kahit i-play mo sa malalaking flat screen hd tv.. bongga pa den ang quality :) fuckin kewl! :)

im not a tom cruise fan but yez, from time to time, gumagawa si tom cruise ng mga magagandang pelikula. hindi ko pa napapanood ang velkyrie. napanood mo na ba ang magnolia? nagandahan ako :) directed by paul thomas anderson :) 


speaking of indie films.. yung kay ato bautista na pagkagising sa kamulatan (di ko sure yung exact title.. basta, parang ganyan).. nagustuhan ko den :) katulad ni ato na sobrang angas, ganun den yung movie nya. written by shugo praico (also the writer of spirits. yung tv series nun sa a.b.s na may soundtrack na you'll be safe here). 


may mga totoo pa den na indie. eto yung walang back-up ng mga malalaking studio. philosophically speaking, yun ang indie. regal and viva digital movies are not indie films. si mother lily pa den (for regal) and vic (for viva) ang nasusunod dun. kung may konti mang leeway.. yun na nga yun.. konti ang.. so wala pa den ang true meaning ng inide. mga tinipid na studio movies pa den yun :)


kelan mangyayari na hindi na nakakabobo ang mainstream? sa ibang bansa, gumaganda ang direction. let's say anime. anlulufet ng kwento.. mabubuwang ka sa isorya.. and yet, the mainstream network and mainstream audience are supporting it (meaning, are producing it), are watching it. sa europe, ganun den.. dumadami ang pedro almadovar, lars von trier, etc.. mga malulufet na movies pero tangkilik ng mainstream.. in US, yes.. entertainment pa den pero may laman naman ng konti kesa sa pinoy. pero napakadami deng basura pa (still) from them. and dun (sa US) naka-base ang idea and cultural meaning of beauty ng mga pinoy.. pag galing US! napakahabang edukasyon sa masa ang kelangan. matagal na matagal pa kung mangyayari man. kasi sa school pa nga lang, ilang school or institution lang ba, or teachers ang open minded sa mga mapagpalayang concepts? pag nakakita ng suso kahit maganda naman ang istorya, ..bawal sa bata! my god! college na! they think students are ignoramus. they always mistaken religiosity and catholicism to blindness. hay nakoh :) the miseducation of filipino students as dean jorge bacobo puts it!


the problem with many indie filmmakers?

alam nyo ba ang majority ng mga nasa indie ngayon? sila yung mga hindi natanggap ng mga networks (or nasipa) because of their far-out ideas. their ideas na ipinipilit pro wala namang masang makakaintindi. so gumagawa ng outlet. at walang pakelam kung maintindihan ng audience or hindi. which i think is wrong. para san ang pelikula? papano tayo mabubuhay nyan? di ba dapat may transition, may education of the masses.. kahit unti unti lang.. hayaan muna nating maintindihan, malaman ni aling bebang na ah, maganda naman pala ang indie.. hayaan muna natin na ma-entertain sila.. unti unti.. darating den ang time na maaapreciate na den nila ang mga malalalim na kwento! but first, let's entertain them. let's konek first.


anyway.. ur the first to post comment. thanx :) ..and i appreciate the natural-ness and (i think) the sincerity of ur article. the rhythm ..also, not bad :) im giving you 94 for this first assignment :)

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Blogger champy said...

piracy 
We all know that "piracy" is a crime..not only here in the Philippines but also in other countries. It is considered stealing something from somebody's work. The government is doing its best to fight piracy...but not good enough to avoid it. It(piracy) provides a more rewarding viewing experience for its viewers,same quality but lower in price. Piracy technology today can copy the quality of the original one,unlike before that it cannot.Needless to say, most of these films are pirated DVDs found in stores which
have sprung up all over the places,also the music CDs.

So whats my point of view?
Piracy is the best distribution system lol!!! im glad that piracy exist!!though i know that it makes our film...music or other industry weak. Because I myself love to watch movies,anime or even concerts that is recorded, but not that much in music..because i usually download songs from the internet...i dont know if it is considered as piracy...if it is not..."YEAH"!!! but if it is piracy..."I Dont Care"lol!!!
I know that a lot of producers are experiencing bankruptcy because of piracy...and piracy is bad. But lets try to look on its good side...many people in our country suffer from financial support, eventhough they have a job,their sallary is too small for them for a living...maybe for food it is enough,but we all know that we people also need a "want"!!!!and music,films and other stuff is considered as a want...so for those people whose income is not that big they choose to buy pirated cds,dvds etc. to satisfy their wants in life...and as of for me...well im still a student..im still unemployed and im only counting on my allowance...but maybe in time i will not buy any pirated cds anymore...pero sir pad album ng hale original binibili ku...haha
Gerard Louie Dimaculangan..

June 16, 2009 10:41 PM


dima said:

repa!


haha :) natuwa ako dun sa closing remarks mo regarding hale :) hehe :) fuckin kewl! :) that's the honesty and sincerity in writing that im talking about. you don't talk shit and hypocrisy.. you should talk about shit and sincerity!  :)


and yez gerald! why should we care about viva or regal or star cinema or star records! they are the bastards that's drying our money's worth! fuck if they go bankrupt! if they went bankrupt, so be it!


and yez, sa mga cd or dvd na gusto ko talaga.. bumibili den ako ng original (until now). the last time that i bought original cd was 2 or 3 years ago. my chemical romance's black parade. that time when goth was never mistaken as emo yet. and such wasn't a bandwagon still. the other cd that i bought orig is pupil's beautiful machine. yes, i still have the eheads hang-over and still in awe with ely's songwrting skills, attitude and iconic ambiance. mga bagay na hindi matutumbasan ng pera. kahit mas mataas ang presyo, bibilhin ko pa den. same's true with your case.. you like hale, and ur announcing it.. that's kewl repa! some people might not agree with you. ako, i will tell you that hale is not in my list as favorite band but the hell with what i think or kung sinuman for that matter.. 

we need not agree with all the things that will be brought up (im saying this for the rest of the students in class).. may mga bagay akong sasabihin na hindi kayo sasang-ayon.. and that's kewl! ..that's the idea of a dynamic and healthy discussion.  my friends are always fuckin laughin everytime that i am mentioning that i like judy ann and her acting prowess (yez, "prowess" is the word haha :)).. ang baduy ko daw, akala daw ba nila kaangasan ang hinahanap ko like eheads or kamikazee or johnny depp or pedro almadovar or quentin tarantino.. baket daw may kasamang judy ann.. 

what the fuck?!

and goin back to sincerity and shit.. we shall call it -- balls! Not all creations have it :)

and my honest assessment to your post,.. 90.

Anonymous Kristine Sonza said...

*Sonza, Marie Kristine Elaine E.
U4A

May dalawang klase ng pelikula ang napapansin ko ngayon, ang pelikulang puno ng saplot at ang pelikulang hubad.

Ang pelikulang puno ng saplot ay ang mainstream. May ilang mga pelikula na nais lang ay pasiyahin at patawanin ang manonood ngunit nasaan ang value? Nasaan ang lesson na dapat ang buhat buhat ng manonood matapos ang pelikula. Nakakalungkot lang isipin na may mga pelikula na nais lang ay kumita. Yun ang priority nila. Yun ang para sa kanila ay ang kayamanan. Ngunit mali. Ang kayamanan na dapat ay ang makita na nasiyahan at may natutunan ang bawat nakapanood sa pelikula. 

May mga mainstream movies naman na maganda. Award winning. Sa una patatawanin ka ngunit pag nakita na ang tunay na problema, ayan na, kukurutin na ang puso hanggang sa mapagtanto mo na naramdaman mo ang pelikula. May mga pelikula na para bang ginigising ang bawat manonood na tila ba sinasabi na “Hoy!manhid ka ba?” at bigla nalang mapapaisip ang nakapanood paglabas ng sinehan na “Oo nga, nadala ako dun ah!” sabay hila sa napulot na aral sa pelikula. Hanep. Sana lahat ng pelikula ganun para lahat may maiuwing aral. Ayun ang gusto ko.

Ang pangalawa naman ay ang pelikulang hubad. Para sakin ito ang Indie. Ito ang mukha ng tunay na mundo, un nga lang malalim ang bawat aral o mensahe na gustong sabihin. Ito ay hubad sa pagpapakita sa malalim na storya sa likod ng magulo at nakakapigang pag-iisip sa mga bawat eksena na nais ipakita ng may gawa. Tila hindi na ako makagalaw sa upuan ko sapagkat lahat ng eksena ay mahalaga sa pagbuo at pagwawakas ng istorya. Minsan nalulunod na ako dahil sa lalim ng nais iparating, buti nakakaahon pa ako. Ayun. Nakakamangha. Naiisip ko nalang na ang tataba naman ng utak ng mga gumawa nito. Tao pa ba sila? Mahusay. 

Hindi man mayakap ng lahat ang indie films, marami parin ang gumagawa at ipinapakita ang husay nila. Kelan kaya darating ang panahon na matatabunan ng indie films ang mainstream?

June 17, 2009 12:00 AM

dima said:

im happy that initially, those who post their comments are writing in good rhythm and sincerity :) i am taking that as sample of other good writings that is yet to come. forget first your academic english grammar. even americans and british are not too grammar-conscious. mga pinoy lang ang praning sa english grammar nila. ang mga kano (at lahat ng iba pang foreigners), they don't give a fuck kung mali ang grammar. important is -- it should be conversational. and for the sake of writing and broadcast concerns.. yes, it shouldn't be too delicate-strict-paranoid-english usage but the only demand is -- dapat magandang pakinggan. hind masakit sa tenga. hindi fuck and pekpek ang tinutukoy ko. okay lang ang profundity syempre. masakit sa tenga ang masyadong maling grammar. katulad ng mga simpleng subject - verb agreement, etc.

and in writing, pag magandang pakinggan, yun na yun. rhythm, repa! rhythm! anyway, katulad ng sinabi ko kanina.. magaganda naman.. fuckin kewl!


anyway,

kristine..

(i will repeat pala, para sa mga hindi nakabasa ng comment ko kay gerald.. hindi kelangang sumasang-ayon ako sa lahat ng mga sinasabi nyo, same na hindi nyo den kelangang sumasang-ayon kayo sa lahat ng sinasabi ko.. and kung may mga sinasabi kayong hindi ako nag-a-agree.. it doesn't mean na apektado ang grades. ang minamarkahan ko ay hindi ang level ng pagkakapareho natin ng stand on things.. that would be boring, self-serving and wrong! ..as i said, we are trying to exercise here our rhythm and balls. maaaring nagtatalo na tayo at halos magpatayan sa debate on certain issues, philosophy and ideologies, but you write and talk with much gusto and tempo.. yun yun! yun ang mahalaga. ang mahalaga'y imortante. hay buhay, parang life, kung iisipin parang thinking. baket kaya kung saan sikip ay dun maluwag. magaling kayo, mayaman kami, pano kami, mahirap kayo :) ..hehe :) ..ano daw :))


anyway, to continue..

i don't agree with that school of thought na dapat lahat ng pelikula ay may morale value. yes, tanging yaman? yes, may magagandang sinasabi about life.. yes, na dapat optimistic ang mga tao..

uhmm.. okay den naman yun. but its not the end all of it. kung may ganun, ayus.. kung wala.. walang problema. for me kasi, hindi dapat extension ng simbahan at magulang ang pelikula. leave it to moralists na mangaral at magdikta ng kung anong tingin nila ng tama o mali. in the first place, baket may monopolyo ba ng tama? may monopolyo ba ng beauty?

may morale value man o wala ang pelikula, hindi dapat nandun ang merit ng beautiful film. ang merit nasa husay ng storytelling. we see european films na ang mga characters ay masyadong fucked-up, bumaho, dumumi, walang saving grace in the end ng pelikula.. but my god! ..their storytelling is so fucking powerful and moving and engaging. and i honestly think na yun ang silbi ng pelikula or ng kung anumang panoodin. again, i might ne wrong. so korek me and let's discuss things :) teachers, same's true with the elders, parents, church, officials and other authorities -- don't hold the monopoly of truth and beauty. kaya pag may nagsabi sa inyong ganito ang dapat, na tama ang rules nya.. mother fucker! yeah, right!


anyway.. kita kits in class mga repapips :) okay ang mga nisusulat nyo :)


kristine, medyo okay ang opening salvo mo.. hindi sya sagad na sagad pero tatayo na :) ..pero nakukulangan ako sa closing remarks mo. medyo malambot pa. konting sagad pa next time. we will discuss this in class. im giving you 89.

Anonymous Zaiachi said...

Hmn...let's see...what topic to choose...

*taps her fingers on random keys while entering a stage of thought* 

I got it. I'll stick with piracy for now. Not like I have anything against making comments on movies and such, but I think I'll do more of a job on Piracy rather than mainstream and indie films. xD

So to start of, I think Piracy being a crime is too fucked up and over-rated, no offense of course. Sure it's nice to have the original stuff (Heck I even buy original Disney Classics at this age) due to how the quality of the movie comes out, or how nice the sounds are plus it's often complete with those nifty features and behind the scenes, but come on, you cant expect everyone to buy the original stuff. We're already entering a time where people love to pleasure themselves but lacks money to do so. So what do people do? Go to the 
Pirates ("Arg! Mateys!" xD) and go buy pirated DVDs, VCDs, and just some normal CDs. 

As much as people (mostly the government, "concerned citizens" *mutters: Money grabbing bastards* and then some), wants to put a stop to piracy...they cant. They have to consider the majority's position. Not every one has money, and the income most people earn remains at a stagnant level. So how can they buy a single movie DVD which costs 750php? A single music CD which costs around 450php, or an original game disc which falls at around 1500k and above? Unless you're rich or a fanatic like I am, you wont give a damn about the original. And this is why the piracy business is thriving in the beautiful yet corrupt country...the Philippines. 

I guess for me, if they want their CDs bought, they could lower the prices a bit. People go to Pirates in order to enjoy a good movie, good sounds, and good games for an affordable price. Compare one CD that costs 750php to four CDs that costs at around 150php. You know where people will go. Plus, they can still bargain with our friendly neighborhood pirates and get it for a much much cheaper price.

Actually, this makes it more convenient. Ah, the wonders of the human mind. How to bring pleasure to dear costumers and possible patrons while earning some cold hard cash in the process. It's a good racket. I admit, I also buy the pirated stuff since the box sets are very expensive. Piracy brings joy to the people, but not to the industry. But I think people could hardly care about the industry as long as they were supplied with the goods. And it seems that this time, the masses have spoken:

Illegal means are the best way to go about it! 

And in my opinion, Piracy is one of the best damn things the illegal biz(My kind o' biz xD) presented to the people. It's cheap, it's affordable, it's accessible, it comes in various amounts and it also comes in fun sizes! *is referring to package size* So what's not to like about that? 

So for me, who has budget problems...piracy is no crime. Hell, it's a gift to human kind. xDDDD 

Signed, 
Kristine Kenneth T. Cua

June 17, 2009 3:24 AM

dima said:


i agree!

piracy is accessible, convenient and pro-poor!

kung nabasa mo yung mga iba ko pang comments, may mga nasabi na den ako about piracy :)

you know who the real pirates are?! sila sa malalaking company. ang viva, ang regal, ang bmg, ang star records.. baket, magkano lang ba ang blank cd? ..magkano lang ba ang ginastos nila sa pagbuo ng album? magkano ba ang kinita nila? millions and fuckin billions of money! and they are crying nalulugi because of piracy! don't fuckin believe them! e di itigil na nila ang negosyo, lugi pala e! ..but of course, hindi nila itinitigil.. why? dahil nagssinungaling lang sila! ..alam nyo bang ang mga malalaking company, may mga underground den silang piracy arm.. yes, can't beat them.. join them. they can't stop piracy and upon realizing it.. gumawa sila ng paraan para pagkakitaan den yun. good thinking!


artists themselves (many of them) are fuckin hypocrites oncam. crying "don't buy piracy" keme keme.. 

but truth to tell, they are thanking piracy. andami daming nakakabili ng album nila sa murang price.. anlayo layo ng nararating ng music nila (kahit sa dulo pa ng mindanao) because of piracy.. and the more people na nakakaalam ng mga kanta nila, the more gigs they will have. mas malaki ang kinikita nila sa concerts (manila or provincial man) kesa umasa sila sa royalty from their mother company. 


at ang mga nagsasabing "stop piracy".. even their ms word na pinagsulatan ng position paper against piracy..

pirated den!


kwela, noh! :)


anyway.. you have a kewl and relak opening lines, you have a decent closing remarks.. 

yes, it's not an over-the-top-fuckin-eye-poppin-wrappin-up but as i said, decent.. and the article body's phase has acceptable rhythm too.. so im giving you 95.

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anna mae rosales "animae"-u4a said...

it's quite surprising..i mean, nakakagulat ung katotohanang sinabi ninyo about mainstream and indie..mainstream-bobong bobo,"binobobo ang masa" and indie na merong nagpapanggap, etc.

hmm, the last time na nanuod akoh ng sine was last week.nuod akoh ng "drag me to hell". hindi po sya horror para sa akin.i thought it was cheesy and grows..yes, nakakabigla sya but still, it's not a good horror movie.the last local movie that ive seen was shake rattle and roll X.uhm, that was december last year..itwas a good movie because it had a good story, and nakakatawa tlga ang hot na hot na marian rivera dun.. i thought she can make more movies or seryes in that comic role..

what's my point?
bago ang point koh, i would like to say na i only watch movies(sa cnehan)every once in a while..i will only spend 100+php sa cnehan if i know na mgnda tlga ang movie(maganda in a sense na ok ang storya at ok ang technicalities..).

sir, i just like to say na nakakadisappoint na nga tlga ang mainstream..
maliban na lang po sa valkyrie ni tom cruise..though mejo bgo sya, for me, isa syang "good-meaningful" movie because of its historical value..but then again, the people of russia wrote that story at hindi ang eheads..

i agree po na mganda ang maximo oliveros..pero ok din po ang kubrador at and icu bed #5(di koh po sure kung aun nga ang title)..hmm, sir, hindi po ba lahat ng iniair sa tv ay my bayad at binabayadan?napersuade niyo na po akohna parang extension nga lang ng regal at viva ang inidie..

pero sir, kelan po kaya mangyayari na hindi na nakakabobo ang mainstream?kelan maiisip ng indie film makers na hindi dpt maging vain ang kanilang movies?

ngmimistulan pala sir na facebook account ang indie films..habang ang mainstream nagiging swine flu o (mas appropriate) nagiging mistulang junkfood na (curls) hindi nakakatulong sa pagnourish sa mga bata ..

kagulo sir nareh, pero it's up to you to judge my article..

anna mae rosales
"animae"
-u4a

kayo na po bahala mgjudge

champy said...

piracy
We all know that "piracy" is a crime..not only here in the Philippines but also in other countries. It is considered stealing something from somebody's work. The government is doing its best to fight piracy...but not good enough to avoid it. It(piracy) provides a more rewarding viewing experience for its viewers,same quality but lower in price. Piracy technology today can copy the quality of the original one,unlike before that it cannot.Needless to say, most of these films are pirated DVDs found in stores which
have sprung up all over the places,also the music CDs.

So whats my point of view?
Piracy is the best distribution system lol!!! im glad that piracy exist!!though i know that it makes our film...music or other industry weak. Because I myself love to watch movies,anime or even concerts that is recorded, but not that much in music..because i usually download songs from the internet...i dont know if it is considered as piracy...if it is not..."YEAH"!!! but if it is piracy..."I Dont Care"lol!!!
I know that a lot of producers are experiencing bankruptcy because of piracy...and piracy is bad. But lets try to look on its good side...many people in our country suffer from financial support, eventhough they have a job,their sallary is too small for them for a living...maybe for food it is enough,but we all know that we people also need a "want"!!!!and music,films and other stuff is considered as a want...so for those people whose income is not that big they choose to buy pirated cds,dvds etc. to satisfy their wants in life...and as of for me...well im still a student..im still unemployed and im only counting on my allowance...but maybe in time i will not buy any pirated cds anymore...pero sir pad album ng hale original binibili ku...haha
Gerard Louie Dimaculangan..

Kristine Sonza said...

*Sonza, Marie Kristine Elaine E.
U4A

May dalawang klase ng pelikula ang napapansin ko ngayon, ang pelikulang puno ng saplot at ang pelikulang hubad.

Ang pelikulang puno ng saplot ay ang mainstream. May ilang mga pelikula na nais lang ay pasiyahin at patawanin ang manonood ngunit nasaan ang value? Nasaan ang lesson na dapat ang buhat buhat ng manonood matapos ang pelikula. Nakakalungkot lang isipin na may mga pelikula na nais lang ay kumita. Yun ang priority nila. Yun ang para sa kanila ay ang kayamanan. Ngunit mali. Ang kayamanan na dapat ay ang makita na nasiyahan at may natutunan ang bawat nakapanood sa pelikula.

May mga mainstream movies naman na maganda. Award winning. Sa una patatawanin ka ngunit pag nakita na ang tunay na problema, ayan na, kukurutin na ang puso hanggang sa mapagtanto mo na naramdaman mo ang pelikula. May mga pelikula na para bang ginigising ang bawat manonood na tila ba sinasabi na “Hoy!manhid ka ba?” at bigla nalang mapapaisip ang nakapanood paglabas ng sinehan na “Oo nga, nadala ako dun ah!” sabay hila sa napulot na aral sa pelikula. Hanep. Sana lahat ng pelikula ganun para lahat may maiuwing aral. Ayun ang gusto ko.

Ang pangalawa naman ay ang pelikulang hubad. Para sakin ito ang Indie. Ito ang mukha ng tunay na mundo, un nga lang malalim ang bawat aral o mensahe na gustong sabihin. Ito ay hubad sa pagpapakita sa malalim na storya sa likod ng magulo at nakakapigang pag-iisip sa mga bawat eksena na nais ipakita ng may gawa. Tila hindi na ako makagalaw sa upuan ko sapagkat lahat ng eksena ay mahalaga sa pagbuo at pagwawakas ng istorya. Minsan nalulunod na ako dahil sa lalim ng nais iparating, buti nakakaahon pa ako. Ayun. Nakakamangha. Naiisip ko nalang na ang tataba naman ng utak ng mga gumawa nito. Tao pa ba sila? Mahusay.

Hindi man mayakap ng lahat ang indie films, marami parin ang gumagawa at ipinapakita ang husay nila. Kelan kaya darating ang panahon na matatabunan ng indie films ang mainstream?

Zaiachi said...

Hmn...let's see...what topic to choose...

*taps her fingers on random keys while entering a stage of thought*

I got it. I'll stick with piracy for now. Not like I have anything against making comments on movies and such, but I think I'll do more of a job on Piracy rather than mainstream and indie films. xD

So to start of, I think Piracy being a crime is too fucked up and over-rated, no offense of course. Sure it's nice to have the original stuff (Heck I even buy original Disney Classics at this age) due to how the quality of the movie comes out, or how nice the sounds are plus it's often complete with those nifty features and behind the scenes, but come on, you cant expect everyone to buy the original stuff. We're already entering a time where people love to pleasure themselves but lacks money to do so. So what do people do? Go to the Pirates ("Arg! Mateys!" xD) and go buy pirated DVDs, VCDs, and just some normal CDs.

As much as people (mostly the government, "concerned citizens" *mutters: Money grabbing bastards* and then some), wants to put a stop to piracy...they cant. They have to consider the majority's position. Not every one has money, and the income most people earn remains at a stagnant level. So how can they buy a single movie DVD which costs 750php? A single music CD which costs around 450php, or an original game disc which falls at around 1500k and above? Unless you're rich or a fanatic like I am, you wont give a damn about the original. And this is why the piracy business is thriving in the beautiful yet corrupt country...the Philippines.

I guess for me, if they want their CDs bought, they could lower the prices a bit. People go to Pirates in order to enjoy a good movie, good sounds, and good games for an affordable price. Compare one CD that costs 750php to four CDs that costs at around 150php. You know where people will go. Plus, they can still bargain with our friendly neighborhood pirates and get it for a much much cheaper price.

Actually, this makes it more convenient. Ah, the wonders of the human mind. How to bring pleasure to dear costumers and possible patrons while earning some cold hard cash in the process. It's a good racket. I admit, I also buy the pirated stuff since the box sets are very expensive. Piracy brings joy to the people, but not to the industry. But I think people could hardly care about the industry as long as they were supplied with the goods. And it seems that this time, the masses have spoken:

Illegal means are the best way to go about it!

And in my opinion, Piracy is one of the best damn things the illegal biz(My kind o' biz xD) presented to the people. It's cheap, it's affordable, it's accessible, it comes in various amounts and it also comes in fun sizes! *is referring to package size* So what's not to like about that?

So for me, who has budget problems...piracy is no crime. Hell, it's a gift to human kind. xDDDD

Signed,
Kristine Kenneth T. Cua

Mavic said...

Maria Victoria S. Casas

This is something i really mean to say. it's not that i hate local productions, i'm just more partial to foreign ones. anyway, here goes..

I find nothing wrong with piracy because in the first place, there is nothing worthwhile to pirate if we are talking about local productions (no offense) no matter how much local directors, producers and scriptwriters think how precious their work is. Local production should not worry about piracy because there is no profit in piracy of local production.

The great majority of local production in piracy is synonymous to trash. Either because they are too mainstream and insulting to the intelligence of the viewer or outright indie that can be understood only by the director and scriptwriter and God knows who else, devoid of the slightest possibility of imparting intellectual joy.

A lot of the pirated products are depeddled dvd’s of foreign TV series which sell like hotcakes. Sa pananaw ko, ang mga local tv or cinematographic productions ay madalas amagin sa istante ng nagtitinda. And if anybody would buy it, it would certainly be the hoipoloi’s, the proletariats, the bakya crowd or in plain language, the non compos mentes (nincompoop). For that matter, even if local production were to specialize in porno, all they’ll show is sex dog-style without even a faint trace of finesse.

Finally, piracy in itself is an art because you must choose that which you will pirate; it is also an economic exercise since one will pirate that which will help him make more money. And one comes to think of it, a man with little money could watch anything he wants at one-fifth the price of the admission ticket of a theater.

So what’s wrong with piracy? It would benefit more people. Local producers should not craw about it because the amount of local piracy will not even scratch the miserable income they make for their equally miserable production. People who moralize about piracy could in themselves have no morals at all.

In short, wasting about our time talking about piracy is first class BS (you should know what I mean by this).

Rachel Pedraja said...

Mainstream movies give cinemas a blast for weeks. they give not just the companies, artists, the crew a living (money)but also pirates. like mainstream, television shows also catch the attention from the people most. while on the other hand, indie films are barely heard and very barely seen by people.

mainstream movies are being adored or patronized by the mass as well as tv shows( i want primetime bida in ABS to serve as an example). i confess that i am really hooked up with the shows esp. tayong dalawa :p for years, ABS has been doing same kind of shows wherein there are the:bida na kahit mahirap ay syang sya pa rin ang puti, palit ng damit everyday, dekontodo blush on, make-up (hindi ba pewedeng mag-ulit ng damit mga yun?)
:the kontrabida na pinaglihi sa sama ng ugali
:mga friends ng kontra/bida, surprise characters.
i think i have witnessed just same flow of stories (wherein there is always love interests, love triangle pa nga kadalasan, jealousy, anger, vengeance etc. name it)
in different time and with changed characters. kahit kay santino makikita pa rin yung same flow though it shares and
reveals more inspiring insights coming from Bro :)

anyway. what im pointing out here is that for years, kahit na ganun at ganun rin lang ang flow ng mga palabas, patuloy pa rin ang mga ito tinatangkilik. laging pinapaypayan ng masa para hindi dapuan ng langaw. another thing is, tool for escape and relaxation maybe kasi ang mainstream and yung mga patok na tv chows ngayon para sa masa!

talagang halos nagkakapareho lang ang mainstream movies at ang tv shows in terms of viewership and let me mention ang kita.

dito ko na gustong ipasok ang nakikita kong issue about passion versus peso (stands out for money) at ang stand ko about indie.

i perceive passion as an outlet. i wonder if the same perception goes for movie-makers both of indie and mainstream. pero para pasimplehin ang issue na ito sa akin, iniisip ko na lang na mainstream is for money-makers and indie is for passion dwellers. Passion. sa tingin ko sa una, masisiyahan ang indie film makers or yung mga ALA-INDIE film makers sa paggawa, pero malamang sa huli magsasawa rin sila. Wala kasing pera, yung malaki ha! na ipinapasok sa pamumuhay nila talaga. prediction ko, hindi magtetake over ang indie sa mainstream kahit kelan. UNLESS. lahat ng maintream movie-makers ay either tumigil, gumawa ng iba namang mga bagay-bagay or mag-switch sa paggawa ng indie. as in yung kapag nalipol na talga laht ng mainstream makers!

isa pa, ang indie kahit gano pa nakakapagmulat ng mga mata ng manonood, hindi naman ito naii-PR ng maayos sa TV kahit sa radyo o magasin so ang resulta, hindi bumenta.

eto pa po, sabihin na po natin na nagpapakita talga ng realidad ang mga indie films. nakapagreveal na ng stories bout homosexuality, jueteng, much close to reality stories.... eto lang po masasabi ko... not all are given the gift or power to change whatever bad things were shown in the indie films. idagdag pa ang kasabihan na tamad ang pinoy. my point is: walang magagawa ang mga manonood sa kung anu pa man ang ipakita ng indie films. walang magiging pagbabago. i dont want to sound so pessimistic but reality is biting me.

commented by Rachel B. Pedraja

Anonymous said...

hahahaha. sir, are you drugs?! :)))) ako merong ako mismo dog tag, galing pa sa organizer. bwahahahahahahaha :)))))))

Anonymous said...

ser. napaka haba. sa sobrang haba hnd ko naabsorb ung assignment namen.,

Unknown said...

this. is what Jana has to say. :)

an honest impression.
upon seeing (would "experiencing" be a proper term? parang ang sagwa sa sentence ko eh) sir dima's performance in the first day of class, napaisip ako. ano 'to? medyo naguguluhan ako pero sige, makiki-ride ako.

when i got home i rushed to the internet and checked on the blogspot we were referred to. self-proclaimed blogger ako, i was pretty sure mag-eenjoy ako. to my surprise, ang tindi! galing pala magsulat ng lokong 'to! :)

mainstream and indie has always been an issue to us arts-inclined creatures. kung sa ibang tao, bakit ba pinoproblema pa? basta may mapanood ok na. mainstream,indie. hindi nila alam yan. tayo lang ang nakakarelate dyan. masarap din namang pagpyestahan ang mga pelikulang pasulpot sulpot na lang. ang sarap siraan. :D

i am a fan of the movie house. i make it a point that i get to watch a film once a week. minsan, twice pa nga. stress reliever. at movie goer talaga. what makes me different from other movie lovers is that i don't just go for the super-famous-highly-rated films. kung sa gamit, nasa top of the line. once in a while i go for movies na wala masyado nanonood. chismosa. gusto ko malaman bakit hindi bumebenta.

few days ago i went to watch night at the museum 2. astig. crush ko yung angels na kumakanta. yesterday i was able to watch ded na si lolo which featured roderick paulate. indie. maingay pero may laman.

being an arts student helped me improve my "observing powers". kritiko na ako - self-proclaimed. ang haba na, sige eto na talaga ang point ko.

mainstream is mainstream. as long as you get the perfect artist in a certain time, at the peak of his or her stardom, a story that relates to the typical filipino style, boom. money.money.money. people are people. i say, majority of the movie goers choose a film that paints the town bloody red. (maliban sa mga mag-jowa. dun sila sa maluwag. privacy,ika nga) what i hate about mainstream (philippine setting) is the storyline. history repeats itself ata ang motto ng mga writer at direktor sa panahonn ngayon. they always go for what's typical and usual.(kasi yun ang bebenta? mali.) we always see films that end up in a wedding, reunion, blahblahblah. minsan kasi masaya rin kung namamatay nga yung bida. di ba? i guess it's about time we feed our people something new. fresher. better. let's not stick to what we're used to. Let's start making a difference and show our viewers that there are other sides in a square. (parang ganto lang yan eh, AKO MISMO)

next stop. indie. clapclap! two thumbs up sa indie film makers. what's great about them are their minds. the way they think is a total blast! take for example jaq, lupit ng isip! :) indie films bring about so many things. these are the stories that you wouldn't encounter everyday. sabi nga ni sir willie, IBAH. it's really frustrating to know that indie films do not YET have all the attention it deserves. sayang ang mga kwento, dahil totoong art ang laman ng mga 'to. about 35 hours ago, i found myself inside a movie house. mga.... 5 lang kami dun. yung isa, solo flight. + ako. + si devs, friend ko. + 1 pair ng bf-gf. ded na si lolo. sayang. maganda ang kwento. pero walang nakakanood na tao. kung makakasigaw lang ang indie films.... hello daw. attention please.

mainstream and indie are two creative things that basically exist in our lives as film enthusiasts. both are great, both has flaws. both has to be patronized to survive. both probably stand on its own.

as a constant movie goer, i can't really say which is better. if it's being keen to continuously support and care for the movie industry, be it mainstream or indie. well. I AM. GUILTY.

now following the instructions for this homework. Comment on this post?

simple. AYOS. =)

jana.jane.montealto.villanueva.
yu-por-ey.

ruruh_02 said...

"Wag tangkilikin ang pirata", yan ang ating madalas na marinig at paulit-ulit nalang
sinasabi sa tuwing may lumalabas na bagong pelikula o kaya naman ay kanta.kESYO pinapatay
daw ang industriya ng pelikula at ang mga taong nagsisikap gumawa ng pelikula kapag bumili
ng pirata. Kung sabagay may punto rin naman sila, marami din ang taong naka depende sa mga
"originals". Pero sa hirap ng buhay ngayon, praktikal na ang bumili ng pirata, imbis na
manood ka ng 100 pesos na pelikula sa sinehan, bumili ka nalang ng tig 50 pesos na dvd,
marami pang kasama at halos wala ding pinag kaiba.Sa hirap din ng panahon ngayon,
makakabili ka pa ba ng tig 300 na "album" ng paborito mong manganganta kung may
"LimeWire" naman na pwedeng makuhanan...libre pa.

Aminado ako na palagi akong bumibili ng mga pekeng dvd dahil nakakatipid ako at nag eenjoy
ako dito..Muara kaya madami akong napag pipilian.
Marahil hindi nga ako nakakatulong sa industriya ng mga orihinal pero
nakakatulong naman ako sa iba, sa mga mas mahirap na tao na umaasa sa mga piratang plaka.
Ika nga,"Piracy is a crime", pero piracy is a crime pa rin ba kung mas maraming tao ang
nabubuhay at nakikinabang dito?

un lang po sir..hehe

-Rocel F. Maranan...U4A

Imaginary Friend ni Sol said...
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Imaginary Friend ni Sol said...

REPA! hulaan mo kung anong show toh!

"HI PAPI! ANG POGI MO PALA SA PERSONAAAL!"

Uggghhh.... I fucking hate this show..I'm sorry.. I know they want to "help" poor people and entertain the masses (getting their grubby little hands on every rating share available), but what kind of sick a-hole do you have to be to ridicule someone, make em sing and dance like a retard then hand them MONEY for their humiliation? ON FUCKING NATIONAL TELEVISION no less! That sort of "humor" (torture is more like it) will fuck with your SOUL. And don't even get me started on the perverted camera men...

*sips coffee while opening new tab to youporn.com*

Filipinos look for an easy way out, so they turn to "get cash quick" schemes like, oh I don't know, joining noontime variety shows that rob them of their dignity and testicles (yes EB and WOWOWEE, I'm looknig at you)

So why do Juan Dela Cruz and Aling Bebang act like birthday clowns in front of millions? Simple, life is, was and always will be hard in this country.Do I blame them? FUCK NO! A person has to eat, no argument there. Sino ba naman ang tatangi sa libreng pera? "kakanta lang naman ako eh. Sasayaw, pupurihin is willie...tpos nun instant (insert monetary value here) na!" Makakatulong ba sa kanila yan? Syempre. Tama ba yan? Syempre hindi. What pisses me off is that we (meaning the current generation of Comm people, TAYO mga dung at day) advocate a school of thought (which i affectionately dubbed WILLIEISM) were its ok to give people false, albeit short term hope; its ok to give the masses an easy way out. Basta bibili ng Energo at Paw ah? What the hell happened to teaching them how to fish? Nasa bible yan, look it up. We often find ourselves going "grabe naman yang isang yan, nakakahiya naman! AYYYY! nanalo ng 10,000!". Sinasabi natin na mali yung gnagawa nung tao but we can't seem to look away...Ironic diba? bakit ganun? Because we are a nation of hypocrites =)

Tangina mo! di ako hypocrite!
*closes link to youporn because mother just woke up*

-Imaginary Friend ni Sol

Imaginary Friend ni Sol said...

Ah...Well good for you, lets hope the other 90 million Filipinos (my self included) follow your example.=)

Still don't believe me? Let's take piracy for example (example for assignment's sake. kidding) Daming nagsasabi "stop piracy", pero pumunta ka sa mga bahay isang drawer puno ng pirated DVDs ang laman. Bullshit if you ask me. I love piracy, mainly because 99% of my music, movies and games are all pirated copies, and partly because…well…I’m not gonna shell out x3 the amount for the same fucking product, less quality or not. Meanwhile, people in the industry bitch and moan about how piracy is destroying the business (which was already screwed since the proverbial get-go btw) . Funny thing is, they have no problem downloading media files from the internet (lime wire, bit torrent to name a few). “Di naman piracy yun eh! Walang batas na nagsasabing ang pagkuha ng mp3 ay piracy!” Kakatuwa talaga pag nakakita tayo ng loophole, abuso MAX!

Oh indie vs mainstream naman!!

Eto ang akin ah, I watch both mainstream and indie films, and I have to say, I enjoyed Click as much as I did Lucky Number Sleven (bat puro foreign? Pak u ka sol!). Oo nga noh, bat walang local? To be frank, I haven’t watched a local flick in a VERY long time. After a slew of horrible (Kokey is a cheap ET knock off for Christ’s sake!) pinoy movies, I sort of lost my faith. I know most people won’t agree with me, but that’s how I see it eh, and its sad to tell you the truth.

Ok back to point, my question is, what ever happened to watching movies just for the sheer pleasure of (*gasps* cue in suspense music) watching a good movie, indie or otherwise. The key word here being “good”. Ang problema kasi sa sobrang daming pangit na movie lumalabas ngayon, hirap ka na makita yung magaganda. Its like trying to find a motherfucking needle in a motherfucking haystack! (Exaggerated? Maybe. Sapul? Definatly) I miss the days where a film DIDN’T need to be indie to be credible. I miss the days where a movie didn’t need CGI or blockbuster stars to get viewers to buy tickets. I miss the times where the art of film making BLURRED THE LINES. Tangina mga repa, di nyo ba un namimiss? Yung nanood ka ng pelikula na imbis na pinupulaan o pinaparangalan mo every 5secs, e hinihintay mo matapos yung pinapanood mo, saka ninyo paguusapan ng mga kaibigan mo pag nakalabas na kayo ng sinehan? I watched Casablanca, A Roman Holiday (Audrey Hepburn for the win!) and Odd Couple back when I was 6 years old (wag na magtaka sir. The sound of music at willy wonka nga nasa top 10 ko eh). They were all dubbed “mainstream” movies but could easily be moved to the “indie” category given a few adjustments. Ang point ko, indie o hindi, kung ang movie ay maganda din a importante diba? Nakakalimutan natin na may manipis na linya sa pagitan ng indie at mainstream. Instead of crossing over to any one side, why not stand in-between? Best of both worlds ika nga. I know it’s a bit optimistic (…ok, its fucking insane) but you never know. The only thing dependable about the future is uscertainty.

-Imaginary Friend ni Sol

Arabella Dawn A. Culla said...

hi sir! :) haha.. ako ung nakalimot ng word na "emotional" sa UUESP sa first quiz na hindi nio pinagbigyan.. hahahah.. :D
* Arabella Dawn A. Culla -u4a
tpos na.. hahahaha!

joke lang sir.. :)

i love watching movies.. lalo na ung karaniwang tinatawag na "mainstream".. for me, maganda naman siya.. kaso nga lang.. ang pagkakamali eh binibigay na nila agad sa mga manunuod kung anong mensahe nito sa umpisa pa lang. minsan nga, sa trailer pa lang.. ALAM NA KUNG ANONG MANGYAYARI.. kumbaga, pare-pareho lang naman ang ginagawa nilang mga movies that are just presented with different approaches. like sa mga romantic movies.. there will always be that certain "scene or action" that would give the audience a hint kung ano ng susunod na mangyayari.. for example, bigla na lang magpapaalam si boyfriend in a very dramatic way, ung tipong wala ng bukas.. and then the next day.. un! wala na nga xa.. nung nagddrama pa lang c boyfriennd na blablabla... naiisip na ng mga nanonood na.. "ay.. cguro mamamtay yan.. or.. ay! cguro may ibang babae yan.." situations like that.. gets nio ga sir ang nais kong sabihin? haha.. para bang paulit-ulit lang ung topic..
TOPICS THAT ARE VERY COMMON TO THE PUBLIC.. they’re like feeding the audience the same kind of food with different flavours.. oha..

so much for that.. ayaw ko maxado awayin ang mainstream.. :) pelikula pdin un.. it still gives entertainment.. it gives the people some sort of happiness na i think.. dun naman nagkulang ang "indie films.." parang they leave the audience hanging..

honestly.. nung hindi pa'ko college.. wapakels ako sa indie movies.. :D yeah, naririnig ko.. pero dedma lang. haha.. at finally, nung nag-meet kami ni indie film.. waaa.. parang.. ayaw ko siya maging friend! haha.. sa kadahilanang.. hindi ko xa maintindihan!! dahil cguro ang ka-close ko ay si mainstream.. hindi ako sanay na nanghuhula.. un bang tapos na ung movie eh hindi ko pa din na-gets kung ano un.. bakit ngyari un.. etc. .. pero habang nakikilala ko naman siya.. mas naiintindihan ko na.. kelangan lang niya ng malalim na pag-unawa..

sa indie films, the audience need to watch it ( hindi ko alam sir ang term pero.. basta.. ) in a way na parang 'out-of-this-world'.. hahaha.. kasi naman po.. karamihan sa napanuod ko.. dko nagets! hahah.. pero naintindhan ko nman ung nais nila palabasin.. it's just that.. iba ung ginamit nilang approach.. mahirap i-absorb kung hindi ka movie critique..

but, i really admire those writers and directors na nakakagawa ng indie films na minsan sila lang ang nakakaintindi.. :D hindi sila natatakot na mag-try.. and i wonder kung saan nila nakukuha ung mga ideas to make a certain scene na kung titingnan eh wala lang.. pero for them, it was their best scene already. ung tipong ganon..

in short.. maganda naman sila both.. IN THEIR OWN WAYS..

aiun lang sir.. :)

reppang_randolph said...

pirata
ang pirata ay salot pero ang salot na ito ay binili ko.ahahaha..
hindi ko man maiwasan pero andiyan talaga ang mga ito sa tabi-tabi ng mga bayan bayan natin.
madaling ng bilhin, mura pa,san ka pa?
alam ko na naaapektuhan nito ang industriya ng musika at pelikula at maari talaga silang bumagsak.
well, ganyan talaga.ahahah.don tayo sa mura at madaling bilhin. madami pang choices ang mga salot na ito. may 18-1 pa!lolz!
ibat-iba pang mga pelikula ang mapapanood sa halagang 60-80 pesos kumpara sa 300 pataas depende kung bagong labas pa ang bibilhin mo.
bakit ba antaas nila magpresyo?
mga mahal ang ginamit?
equiptments?
studio?
churva?
cheness?
hindi lahat ng tao ay mayaman na kayang bilhin ang mga sobrang mahal na original copies.
ahahay! paano ba yan viva?star records?regal?emi?star cinema?ano pa ba?....
papatalo ba kau sa SALOT?
dvd, dvd, dvd oh bili na kau jan...
kung narerecord lang sana ng mga bigating companies yung mga nabebentang salot tulad ng album ng parokya ni edgar may award na siguro sila sa dami ng bumili.lolz.
sir edu pasensya na po.hihihi..
reppa hanggang dito nalang


Reppang_Randolph Montalbo U4b
Dimaiologyclass

renei perez said...

hi sir..=)
renei angela perez-u4a..

well aun, to start of, mainstream..mainstream..mainstream..
ayan na xa and we have nothing to do with that..people loves it..masa na nga kung baga..

kung wlang movies,will people get fund of just watching theirselves hook up in their houses and manuod ng cartoons?i don't thnk so..
mainstream movies are well absorbed by the people kasi they are entertained...

and un nga da last movie dat ive watched was drag me to hell..i was fucking entertained xe i didn't get the chance to relax myself off my seat..ahaha..! super natakot ako kasi my weakness are movies na nakakagulat.. i always use to watch scary movies with my hand covering my ear.. ayoko kc nari2nig ung sounds..pero mulat aku..hehe..

everyday i get to watch a movie but not in da big screen.. hir lang sa house coz i have a lot of dvd's and up to now di ko pa tpos lahat.. foreign movies is what i am particular of.. sbrang galing ng mga scenes and effects..
kamangha mangha talaga.. and what i am noticing is dat hnd ngkkaparehas ng stories ang mga movies na nppnuod ko.. demn! it's not dat im degrading our local movies pero most of the pinoy movies are having the same flow and story..bkt gnun?hehe..

pag sala sa namatay,nagpakamatay.pinatay., e mggkakahwalay,mgkkblikan, mgbbgo ng pananaw sa buhay at mgkktuluyan sa huli..demn.. but i don't have da rgiht to blame them kasi mhirap nmn talagang umicp ng kwento..

pero un na nga..mainstream na xa eh..and as much as we comment about it, we still admit that it is really a big poof in our industry and in our lives.. kung walang mainstream movies i don't think we'll reach happiness....

indie movies..i i i i ...hehe..it's great naman,it's just dat hnd maxadong pumatok talaga.. di ba most of the indie films nga are winning in the oscar awards pa..and best director chevarlu..ok nmn xa e..i've met indie movies simula nung nagcollege ako and took this course..pero cguro qng di ako nag abcomm i won't be introduced wid indie films..hehe..
i agree wid sir na da best indie movie was maximo oliveros..sobrang natouch ako dun sa gay na batang un..and un lang, i think.. sarung banggi was da worst indie i've watched! haha..as in.. di ko na naintndhan di pa ko nagenjoy..haha..

mainstream is a lot different with indie..mainstream na kc ung nkasanyan ntn.. khit pa ganu ntn idegrade at commentan ng bonggang bongga, di na mwwala ang mga movies that well entertain us.. indie naman is much more of portraying people's real lives.. we can relate to it and we cannot..

but, it's such a great honor na nkkpnuod kme ng indie films kc more on reality nga xa and kht pa hnd nmn naiintndhan, still we know dat there are such movies existing..

ayun lang poh..bsta may movies may ligaya..hehe..=)

clarissa caringal said...

Helow sir… clarissa caringal hir…

My wor bang DOGIA? Ahaha..

Well… mainstream vs. indi…

Honestly, kung hindi ako ab comm hondi ko
malalman nag INDI FILMS..
INDI… may laman.. may lalim..
may dating.. puno ng ideya..
Ganyan ngang masasabi ang INDI…
ngunit baket kaunti lamang ang tumatangkilik?
Kaunti lamang ang nakakapuna..
Kundi pa dadalhin sa ibang bansa na sya lamang
Tumatangkilik at nakakapansin ay wala na…
bagSak na nag lalo pang babagsak.. wawa nman
ahahahah… bukod sa mga taga ibang planeta na
nanonood nito ay ang mga estuyanteng nirequire
na manood ng profesor… at kung hindi ay sya bagsak na
kailangan ba palagi na sapilitan na lang? ahahaha..


ANG PAGDADLAGA NI MAXIMO OLIVEROS.. at
Ang KUBRADOR… kahanga hangang mga indi films..
Na pinalakpakan at inawardan sa ibang bansa..
Ang problema din naman kase sa mga ganitong INDI..
Palaging merong twist.. kailangan ng malwakang pagintindi..
Mapapansin pa na palaging bitin..

Oo, alam nating mga nasa linya na komunikasyon na
Ganoon ang kagandahan ng isang pelikula.. dpat my twist at
Mapapa isip amg manonod..


Pano naten maipapintindi yun sa masa?.. kailangan pa b na
Malawakang paliwanagan?

MAINSTREAM… may kababawan.. madming kakornihan..
Masasabing yan ang PILIPINO.. mabawbaw at korny..
Ayaw ng my twist.. gusto madaling intindihin..
Yung tipong isusubo mo na lang sa kinila…

Alin ba dapat? Gumawa ng aya ng sa mainstream na korni
At mababaw? Malaki naman ang kita..
Or indi na may aral sa buhay… ngunit maliit ang kita…

Go to piracyI… ahaha

DOGIA

Michelle Reyes said...

Reyes, Michelle A.
U4A
Mainstream films deal with moral dilemmas or identity crises, but these issues are usually solved by the end of the film. Kumabaga, kakapanuod mu pa lang ng pilot episode ng isang telenovela, alam mo na kaagad na happy ung ending niya. Mahilig akong manuoud ng mga mainstream films kahit na halos pare-pareho lang yung story, wala lang, nag- eenjoy din naman kasi ako eh, at un ang isa sa mga goals ng mainstream, ang entertainment. Kahit na wala tayong gaanong mapupulot na aral sa mainstream, kumikita pa din sila ng malaki, bakit? Kasi tinatangkilik sila ng masa. Hindi naman goal nga mga producers at directors ng mainstream movies ang may matututunan ang mga tao, ang goal talaga nila ay ang kumita ung pelikula nila. maibalik ng doble o triple ung nagastos nila. Wala silang ginawa kundi patawanin at pakiligin ang mga tao.
Ang mainstream kasi generic ung images, plots, verbal expressions, at mga characters. Samantalang ang mga indie films naman, hindi kaagad nagpprovide ng readily answered conclusion, sa halip ay inilalagay ang audience sa task na pag- iisip kung paano ipinakita ang storya at at kung paano sinabi ang storya.
Para sa akin kahit halos pare- pareho na lamang ang storya ng mainstream tulad ng walang katamatayang love story, bida na gustong maghiganti sa umapi sa pamilya na, nagbagong buhay etc. etc, ay hindi pa din ito masasapawan ng mga indie films. Wala eh, syempre dun pa din nag masa sa kung saan ay makakarelate sila. Sasabihin nila, “ay, parang ganyan ung nangyari sa akin” o “sana mangyari din sa akin ung nangyari sa diba”. Ang mga indie films na halos hindi maitindihan ang storya. Indie films na hindi ko alam na tapos na pala, akala ko may kasunod pa kasi parang may kulang eh, pero un pala tapos na, ako na lang pala ang bahalang magbigay ng sarili kong interpretation. Iba kasi ang level ng indie film kumpara sa mainstream. May malalim na storya pa na ang director or script writer lang ang nakakaala. Sasabihin natin after iexplain ng director or writer ay, “ah ganun pala un… kaya pala…”.
Hindi lahat ng tao ay alam ung indie films. Mga piling audience lang, katulad ng mga Comm students sa La Salle na halos taon-taon eh nagkakaroon ng mga workshops at forum tungkol sa indie films, heheh… Hindi naman kasi pang masa ung indie films eh. Eh sinong manunuod niyan? Yung mga tambay ba sa kanto eh manunuod ng mga indie films? Syempre hindi, mas pipiliin nilang panuorin ay ung mga pelikula na mas maiintindihan at mag- eenjoy sila.
College na ko nung una akong nakapanuod ng indie film, pero high school pa lamang ako ay naririnig ko na sa t.v ung mga tungkol sa awards na napapanalunan ng mga filmmakers ng indie. Kung hindi pa dahil sa awards na natanggap na naging dahilan para makilala ang Pilipinas sa buong mundo ay hindi pa i-aanounce sa t.v na may indie film pala na ganun.

del carmen manalo_U4A said...

Well, ang mainstream kung tutusin naman po ok ‘cause it’s entertaining. Kaso it’s just na masyadong ginagawang mababaw ang storya kaya pati ang mga manonood ay walang napupulot. Just like what you said Sir masyadong isinusubo na lang. Isang mayaman at isang mahirap na sa huli kahit na anong hadlang ng lahat ay magkakatuluyan at magkakatuluyan pa rin. Paulit-ulit na lang. Hindi naman po ito ganun kasama kaso mas maganda sana kung may pakuntyagang realidad in a way na may underlying meaning sa bawat palabas. Hindi ganun kabigat pero makakarelate at the same time makakamulat ng mga mata. Kasi kalimitan it lacks the sense na dapat nilalaman ng isang palabas . They think of those kasi na kakagatin ng manonood regardless of the depth (depth nga ba un sir? Di ko po maisip yung term… parang ganun) na kalimitang kababawan na (ginagawang perpekto ang mundo.)Na kung tutuusin naman nalalayo sa realidad.

Sa indie naman, agree po ako senyo Sir. Madame nga pong lumalabas na indie films ngayon kaso sana madaling maintindihan ng manonood kung ano ang nais ipahiwatig ng palabas. Agree ako na ang pagdadalaga ni maximo… ay magandang indie film. Patok ang storya at may laman pa. Sana ganun ang mangyari sa industriya ng palabas.

Mantika at tubig…
Ang mantikang mainit kapag winisikan mo ng tubig, maninilabsik. Feeling ko they failed to do a combination of both kasi maaari nga namang hindi ito pumatok. Lugi ang producer. Tingin ko po kasi kaya naman talagang gumawa ng isang magandang, makabuluhang patok ng pelikula. Kaso mahirap din kasing magtry magproduce ng hindi mo siguradong papatok. Hindi naman naten masisisi ang industriya sa pagproproduce ng siguradong papatok na pelikula. Syempre kelangang kumita.

Paikot-ikot…
Personally, ang ayoko lang naman sa mainstream ( di naman lahat)eh yung paano nila kalimitang tinatapos at pinapaikot ang pelikula o palabas. Usually kasi they finish it with happy endings na hindi naman laging ganun saka masyado pong predictable yung mga susunod na mangyayari. Sana eh tulad po ng “Sad Movie” yung ending. Yung tipong pwede at talagang patay ang bida. Mga di akalain kung ba ga.

Sa kabuuan…
Well, masasabi kong mas mainam sana kung lahat ng pelikula at palabas sa T.V. ay may makabuluhang istoryang naglalaman ng katotohanang maiintindihan ng kahit isang mababaw na tao. 


Del Carmen Manalo_U4a

Angela Jeannine Salud said...

Mainstream movies and shows are fun to watch dahil entertaining ito. Parang habang pinapanood mo ay naglalaro mga emotions mo. sad to say, ang iilan na lang sa mga movies na yun ang masasabi na may kasama pa ding value yung story.

Paano mo ba masasabing maganda ang isang pelikulang horror or romance? pagtumayo ang buhok mo sa batok or pag kinilig ka? Siguro yun nalang ang maiooffer ng mga films ngayon. May isa akong film na napanood na very disappointing. local film, comedy. i expected na maganda yung film na yun dahil sequel siya eh and finding yung part one na maganda, i expected na maganda din yun. but to my surprise, turned out that it was a senseless movie and I wasted Php100.00 over it.

All I can say is that they make movies like that just tio make money but not ereally share sensible thoughts to the audience so that is why I got intersted in indie films. Some of the indie films that I have watched are In Da Red Korner, Rekados, Rome and Juliet, and ICU Bed #7. I could say that these made great sense, dahil ibang klaseng story naman ang meron sila, unlike for mainstreams ngayon, same old story lagi lalo na pag romance, para bang may pattern lagi yung story. Iilan pa lang yung napanood ko na namatay yung bida. But for indie films, iba ang approach, iba ang timpla ng story. Tsaka yung characters, yung theme, unusual. Sa tingin ko, mas magiging maganda ang film industry kung iba naman sana yung story na ipapakita nila. Yung may sense, para hindi lang satisfaction ang maramdaman ng audience, kundi parang hindi nila makakalimutan yung film dahil maganda at kakaiba yung story..=)

Angela Jeannine M. Salud

U4A

maree aiko dawn lipat_U4A said...

Maree Aiko Dawn D. Lipat *:)

Honestly, i wanna say....
"Thank God, there's muslims here in Lipa Bayan (palengke)" haha.. :D
And oh, I forgot, the very pang "masa" mall.. FIESTA MALL..

Coz, through them i could buy lots and lots of "pirated DVDs"
Yeah right, I do buy those stuffs (but not all the time).. if i just have time. Well, my God, like what Ms. Digger said we are in a poor country! We are poor. Be practical na lang to buy what's cheaper, and pirated DVDs are in. (i'm so pro-pirated, hehe)

Another thing is, the idea of piracy in the internet. Whoah,there's piracy over music, pictures, videos, informations and a lot more things. In just a click you'll get to save them over CD or flashdrive. That's piracy right? People get hook on piracy since that's where they could find "pleasure in an easy way". Piracy is a worldwide addiction.

BUT..yeah a big BUT... i do buy originals when it's SaraH Geronimo's album.. haha

Back to the issue,.
the real issue is.. originals are kinda expensive.. But there's one thing that came on my mind, artists should have been happy on the other side of piracy. Well, those who buy pirated CDs of their movie or albums, still is a good shot. Why? Because the "masa" can get a chance to watch them, and at the same time they could be famous with it! But sorry, no money.

Who could afford to buy those originals all the time? The Doñas? mean girls? sosyaleras? trying hard to be rich? politicians?. . or whoever they are...

here's the treatment of Pinoys:
"kahit ano, basta meron, pwede na un"

I'm not against originals. In fact that's more likely to see. But, if you have to watch on pirated ones, well.. some are still pleasing to the eye.. As long as you could understand it, go for it.:)

People no longer look at piracy as a crime. Piracy as an alternative. No crime at all. No one would jail you if you buy one. (but still it's wrong, sorry BRO). Piracy is in the making. We, communication students, as future film makers would be dealing with creating box office films that would definitely inspire and transform lives (hehe). Well, if we have to think of it, there's a sadden portion there. If you own something, then there's that somebody who stole it from you, ofcourse it's a weakening part on you.So I can't blame those movie industry if they still keep on saying "No to piracy". That's their business. Maybe they should look on how they would encourage people to buy the originals. A lower price i think? 2 thumbs up for the people. The industries should be the first one to work with it. I say, people do like originals, who didn't like it? i think no one. But what makes them go away with it, is MONEY!

What would the movie or music industry would do? Do the same thing as AKO MISMO campaign? maybe this year or next year or whatever year. There's this NO TO PIRACY campaign? Well, i doubt it. Piracy i think is a dead issue right now. There's a lot more things to focus on, the upcoming election. That's more likely to think of, to have a better country. And especially, my studies.. :)

Students don't have to study all about piracy. Everyone knew about. Piracy is a crime. It is stealing. And anything cliches about it. They just have to know how to deal with it.

Piracy is piracy! And what's next to it? Still, piracy will run through the mainstream. For the people, i think they would say, "Why not to piracy".

"PIRACY IS AN ALTERNATIVE"

so much for that statement. i think everything goes with it.

precious said...

Want to comment on piracy.
Anyway, mahal ang original kaya i would absolutely prefer buying pirated cds. I admit, I don't give a damn kung naluluge ang mga producers when people keep on patronizing such. Why? I don't think they would also care kung malaki ang nababawas sa bulsa ko dahil sa pagbili ko ng cds nila diba. Of course, what is only important to them eh makabenta sila ng malaki at pumatok ang mga pinoproduce nila. Though I know that if I keep on buying pirated cds I'll be one of the causes why the film industry of our country is getting worst. Well, can you expect in a 3rd world country na ma-afford pa nila bumile ng mahal? definitely not. My God, lahat tayo nag-aim sa mura, & everybody has a choice. I can't think of any solution 'bout this, maybe producers should make it a lil' cheaper, don't know kung pano nila gagawin yun. Bahala na sila...
Lahat naman gusto yung quality but the industry should consider also what kind of people is in the majority that also wanting to hear & watch cds or dvds. No wonder, how much the artists & producers beg on t.v to buy only their original albums, people will always stick to pirated ones.
Mahirap lang ang Pinas, let's admit that fact. Mahirap baguhin ang mentality ng tao. Piracy will exist as long may pinoy. Hopeless to say, but I don't think we could find our way out here.

-Querubin, Precious Grace P.- U4B

oji_lastrilla said...

...^.^ hello..
honestly, im not in the ryt mood now,.. pero i wanna try kung anu magiging output nito.

since i was young, i really love to watch movies both locals and foreign movies. movies like jurassic park, e.t. jumanji at... at... 'yun Lng pumasok sa mind q...

sa local movies naman, sobrang dami, na sa sobrang dami wala akong mailagay.. anyway, i took the opportunity to watch several movies as many as i can since we have cable connection (eventhough local lng)...

sorry, pero i don't want to agree na nakakabobo ang mga mainstream movies. i believe kasi na every movie is a product of creative minds. anyway, at the very young age i started to love movies, and simula 'nung naka-experience aqng gumawa ng mga "short-films" lalong tumindi 'yung LOVE ko for films/movies... kaya it's so unfair na sabihing "nakakabobo" ang mga mainstream movies...

HINDI naman lahat nakakabobo. tsk2 i mean i have to accept and defend the fact that i've seen good and quality mainstream movies produced by local talents. movies like "a Lovestory", "la vida rosa", "pa-siyam" and marami pang iba. sana hindi mageneralize ang mga mainstream movies and i hope it goes sa lahat ng bagay dito sa mundo.

and let me clear something i'm not against indie films. i mean, i also have to admit that films that are indies in nature are naturally-good and an eye-opener. of course, they are also products of creative minds and extraordinary people, what do you expect diba.?

sana magkaro'n tayo ng different perspective EACH film. kasi based on my personal observation may mga mainstream na panget meron din naman ilang indie films na panget, may mainstream na panalo, at may "indie" na basura. so it's NOT really RIGHT to generalize the two mentioned categories.

one more, (this goes to local movies only) both mainstream and indie films naman are outputs of us Filipinos, kaya for me it's better kung magkaro'n tayo ng sensible review and good judgement sa bawat film na pinapanood natin diba. saka be proud of our works. 'yun Lang.. hehhe..

sorry sir if i sound preaching, wala lang gusto ko lang magkaro'n ng fairness.. hehehe.. though, there's such thing as "unfairness". diba naman.. i'm sure no one really wants to be judged unjustly..^.^

john felipe banzuela lastrilla
"oji"
u4a

hehehe^.^ smile mu na...

clarinezz said...

Ang hirap ng walang net sa bahay. nandito ako sa kapitbahay namin. wha3.

Ayan. ako, movie aficionado talaga ako. Hindi ako nanunuod sa sinehan madalas (kasi I'm on tipidation most of the time).Yung mga trip kong pelikula lang. Para saken, ang sinasabi ko kapag may bagong movie, "Ipapalabas din naman yan sa HBO, Cinema1 at Star Movies after 6 months." O diba. Ganyan ako kakuripot. I admire indie films. Pero bakit kasi ngayon lang kaya ito nauso parang H1N1? Nakakainis nga kasi hindi ko maabutan yung "Nasaan si Happiness?" gusto ko yun panuodin!

Mainstream sa Pinas
Kahit papaano, hindi naman lahat ng mainstream nakakabobo, yung tipong alam na natin ang takbo ng storya or walang kwenta. Mayroon din namang mga pelikula na ginugulat at pinapahanga tayo sa huli. Mayroon din namang may mga aral kahit pera lang ang habol nila sa kanilang pelikula.
Natutuwa kasi ako sa mga pelikulang about sa pamilya ang topic gaya ng Tanging Yaman. O diba. Tapos, may mga pelikulang horror din naman na napahanga ako, gaya ng Feng Shui, (na may standing ovation pa daw sa Robinsons noon) talagang kahit ilang beses ko yung panuorin, hindi ako nakokornihan, (kahit may ilang eksena nga na korny). Hindi lang din naman dito sa Pilipinas may mga pelikulang, sabihin na natin na walang kwenta, marami din sa ibang bansa hindi lang napapansin kasi Hollywood eh.

All the women INDIEpendent!
Kakaiba. Pinag-isipan. Experimental. No rules. Ilan lang ang mga salitang yan kung ipapa-describe mo sa akin ang indie film. Kakaiba, dahil walang katulad. Yung mga gumagawa at nahuhumaling sa pagawa nito, nakakaiisip sila ng something new, hindi yung gasgas na, hindi yung bumenta na. Pinag-iisipan bawat eksena, bawat galaw ng artista pero nag-eexperiment din kung papaano pa mapapaganda. Ang bawat direktor ay malayang mag-explore ng kung anu-anung bagay. Walang rules, kasi nga rules are made to be broken, parang promise lang diba? Walang rules pero lahat naman dapat ay may limitasyon. Chaka sa indie minsan lumalabas yung may mga totoong talento sa mundo ng film making.

Mainstream vs. Indie
Kung ang mainstream, alam na natin ang takbo ng kwento, sa indie, manghuhula tayo kung ano ang mangyayari sa huli, kailangan ng mga manunuod na paganahin ang isipan at imahinasyon. Sa mainstream, maiintindihan ng lahat ng tao ang kahulugan ng storya, sa indie, may mga malalalim na pelikula at mga taong may malalalim na pag-iisip lang ang makakaintindi. Sa mainstream, sikat ang mga tinatampok na artista. Sa indie, minsan, mga pangkaraniwang tao lamang. Sa mainstream, ang daming pa-ek-ek, sa indie, simple lang pero bongga. yung tipong unexpectedd yung mga pangyayari.

Para sa akin, parehong ok ang mainstream at indie kasi pareho ko naman silang tinatangkilik. kasi tingnan ninyo. Paano kung puro indie na lang ang mga palabas sa sinehan diba? Paano yung mga taong mababaw yung kaligayahan?

Dapat kasi pantay lang. Balance is the key to success ang fulfilling our dreams. (ano daw? patawa lang. wha3.) Huwag natin maliitin ang mainstream. Pero let's support indie. ok ka ba tyan?

thank you very much.
ako po si Chenelyn cla-cla.
mga ka-echosan! XD

ako p

♥ elaibyu ♥ said...

I’m glad, we’ve met. Yeah. I am fond of buying pirated dvd’s instead of buying the original. Why? Because it is cheaper although the quality of it is not the same quality of what the original has. We can never deny that many Filipinos love watching movies whether it is local or foreign movies. But not all Filipinos can afford to pay Php 100.00 in cinema just to watch movie for just one day. And not all Filipinos have the funds of buying original DVDs and VCDs. We Filipino’s are now being “praktikal”. Praktikal in a sense of mas pipiliin natin kung alin ang mas mura pero mas mapapakinabangan. Like me, kung manonood ako sa sinehan and I’m going to pay Php100.00 para lang sa isang movie, lugi ako. Eh kapag bumili ako ng isang pirated DVD, minsan 8 different movies na ang laman nun. At ang isang dvd will cost only Php80.00, minsan nga pwede pang tawaran eh. Sulit pa. yun nga lang, minsan hindi maganda ang quality, tumatalbog, may biglang susulpot na ulo, may maririnig na tawa at kung ano-ano pa. Pero marami nang nagtitiyaga dun. Ngayon nga may bago na, dvd copy na, mas okay kaysa sa dati. O,dba? (hehe)

Big companies always telling us not to buy pirated dvds kasi daw crime yun. Always buy the original daw. Echos! Hindi ba nila alam na sa panahon ngayon konti na lang ang magtitiyaga na bumili ng original. Sa hirap ba naman ng buhay ngayon. Eh sila nga, they don’t mind kung mabutas ang bulsa natin kapag original ang binili. May pakelam ba sila? Wala dbah. Echosera sila! (haha) buti nga may mga website na pwede panooran ng mga movies at pwede pagdownloadan ng mga kanta. Like now, baliw ako sa Boys Over Flowers, gwapo eh! (haha), pero hindi ako bumili ng dvd, sa youtube ako nanonood. (hihi).

Hay naku. So much for this. Masasabi ko lang, malaking tulong ang paglabas ng mga pirated dvds at vcds lalo na sa masa. At sa mga “kuripot”. (haha)

Bethsy said...

Mainstream films—tawag doon sa mga pelikulang hindi kayang sisirin dahil mababaw,tila Madam Auring bawat manonood dahil kayang mahulaan ang kahahantungan, formula film kung tawagin. Ngunit uri rin ng pelikulang naguuwi ng limpak limpak na pera sa bawat parte ng production group kahit isipin na parang anay na unit-unting naninira ang piracy.Hindi natin masisisi ang mga prodyuser kung gusto nilang maibalik ang naiinvest, kung doble man o triple, kinabubuhay nila iyon.

Mainstream films ang laging may venue. MapaGateway Cineplex o SM Movie World, benta mainstream. Minsan kailangan mo pa magpareserve ng seats kung gusto mong humabol sa premiere night ng pelikula nila Kim at Gerald.


Independent films—may laman, puso, atay at balun-balunan. Karaniwang uri ng pelikulang pumapasok sa mga international award giving bodies. Nagsasabi ng realidad na hindi lahat ng turok ay parang kagat lang ng langgam, na kending mtamis din ang siyang nakabubungi ng ngipin at nagpapakita ng tunay na mukha ng payaso. At syempre, ito lang din naman ang nagbigay daan para parangalan ang unang pinoy na nanalong best director sa Cannes Film Festival. San ka pa?Kinabog ang nabasa ko sa taas na idol ni sir na si Quentin Tarantino.

Indie films sa kasamaang palad ang walang lugar. Kalimitang nasa mga unibersidad at coffee shops kung magfilm showing. Salamat sa Robinsons Galleria sa maya’t maya nilang pagpapalabas ng indie. Salamat din sa lalong pagusbong ng malayang pelikula, unti-unti na syang kinikilala.


Naalala ko sa isang nabasa kong lathalain, wala daw talagang indie film. Ang meron lang daw ay independent filmmakers. Naisip ko tuloy, indie film ay produkto ng malalayang utak, ito ang pelikulang may ART. Nararapat lang na makilala ang indie na kaiba ng mainstream, mainstream na wala ng ginawa kundi isubo sa bawat manonood lahat ng elemento ng pelikula.

Ako, naniniwala na gutom ang bawat kaisipan natin. Salat tayo sa katotohanan. Hindi ko sinasabing kailangan tayong subuan para mabusog. Kailangan natin matutong kumain. Kailangan matutong magisip, bagay na hinahain ng indie.

Sa mainstream, escapism ang nangyayari. Nanonood tayo ng mga bagay na malayo sa katotohanan. Sa lahat ng effort na ginagawa ng bawat indie filmmaker, mamumulat din tayo isang araw, mahal na ni Juan dela Cruz sarili niyang pelikula, isama mo pa si Aling Bebang.

Williebeth Adajar
U4A

iamCASS said...

sir hindi magkasya ung comment ko so i cut it into two parts...
Cassandra Moira A. Sawali
U4A
"Caessie"

Sir Dima, it is true na maraming points maraming pwedeng ipag-compare ang mainstream at ang indie film. But one thing is certain at my point of view, pareho silang “plastic”. Ang mga nagiging stories nila eh masyadong idealistic, masyadong perfect, yun nga lang perfect sa paningin lang ng mga writers and directors. Bakit ko nasabi to sir? Kase ang nangyayari eh bumubuo sila ng mga karakter base sa kung anung gusto nila so, yeah totoo sila sila lang din nakaka-appreciate nun. Kaya ang mga nanonood eh hindi pwedeng sabihin na sila lahat ay interesado sa storya, ang iba wala lang nakikiuso lang o kaya nagpapalamig lang o palipas oras lang, at the end of the day, these viewers will be found sleeping as these movies are playing in front of them. As the time passed by the creativity and the essence of a film seems to fade along the colors of black and white films.
Your blog sir, about sa mayayaman, well, natauhan ako, kase i realized, bakit nga ganun, sobrang extra-ordinary , apecial and priceless ang arts or ang isang pag mayaman ang gumawa and then sobrang high ng expectations, at isa pa, parang sila lang ang may karapatang mag-appreciate ng so-called art nila. Kapag naman ang gumawa ng “art” ay ordinaryong tao, hindi art ang tawag, but “recycled” ay sa lecheng buhay napaka-unfair. I mean oo maaaring at some point talagang magkaiba ng materials ang gamit, but sometimes those artworks made from things that has or have been used eh mas masarap iappreciate, mas masarap tingnan kase you get to be surprised from the output in a way na hindi mo ineexpect na something out of any ordinary things would turn into something meaningful. Or sa film, dedepende sa quality lamang ng camera na ginamit yung interest ng tao, kung minsan nga unang shot palang at nakita na old camera, no matter how good and meaningful the story is, well sorry ka nalang, hindi maganda camera na gamit mo so saka ko nalang xa panoodin. Bullshit.
Bakit ganun, you have to have this so-called “name” to put a price on each of your work. Bakit hindi nagging sukatan ang effort that you put on a certain artwork or master piece. You have to have one of the biggest names to be entrusted sa isang malaking projects ng viva or regals o kahit na anu pang nakakagagong yaman na companies. Eh kumusta naman yun sa atin na mga viewers din sila nakakakuha ng pera nila noh. They don’t take it to consideration the fact that i am to say, medyo baduy pero i find it true, there are a lot and i mean a lot in the young generation who can do what these known film makers do. Pero nadidisregard halimbawa sa job hunting. But let me get myself clear, i have nothing against those film makers ha, im just emphasizing what i have observed for the past few years and i have found a “proof-factor” in this blog.

iamCASS said...

2of 2
Cassandra Moira A. Sawali
U4A
"Caessie"

I want to talk about the undying issue of piracy. First of all, i want to burst it out of my thoughts, kung pwede lang sana those people who are handling piracy in the country. UTANG NA LOOB NAMAN WAG SILANG MAGPANGGAP NA PARANG MAY NAGAGAWA SILANG EFFECTIVE NA ACTION AGAINST PIRACY. Puro yabang at laki lang ng katawan na may dala dalang batuta at baril pinapakita nila eh. My point is face the face that their actions regarding piracy eh wala pa sa kalingkingan ng laganap na piracy. Para sa akin, wala ng lunas, why? Ksae it’s everywhere , internet man o bangketa. A person can download a certain movie from the internet or simply buy a pirated cd and convert it, let’s say in mp4 format then put it on their flash drives and simply let their friends copy the file and then do the same for their friends. Oo nga nasasabutahe nga nila ang mga tao na nagtitinda ng mga dvd or vcd sa bangketa eh anu naman nagagawa nila na actions dun sa mga nag share ng file. Utang na loob ha, ang mga artistang yan na nagrereklamo tungkol sa piracy, kesyo hindi bumenta mga film nila o album nila kase ang kalaban nila eh piracy, hello! Okay lang kayong mga artista kayo? Eh kayo mismo, ipupusta ko pareho kong paa, nagdo2wnload din kau from the internet noh wag kayo masyadong magmalinis. If you want na malutasan ang piracy nay an kau mismo ang magsimula. Wag kau magdowload from bit torrent or limewire etc. Do it the way you want your audience to do so. Yun lang sir masasabi ko about piracy. Opinion ko lang to and nobody can change that. I mean no harm sa pwedeng makabasa nito na maaaring ma-offend. Sometimes real action about a certain concern starts from talking about it brutally and frankly but as honest as your thoughts are concern.

Anonymous said...

first of all, lahat naman sila palabas ah..haha..pero saan ba talaga sila nagkakatulad, may kwento, may buhay, may kahahatungan at bukod sa lahat may director at cast. May bawat ideya na tinutukoy o sinusundan . Parehas din silang may aral na pinapahayag o pinaparamdam sa masa.Nagkakaiba naman sila sa paraan nang may malalim ng story ang indie film di tulad sa TV show at mainstream na pag sinabi mo na pelikula na indie pala..ay alam na agad ng dapat intindihin at palawakin ang kaisipan, di tulad sa mainstream movies at TV show na sa simula palang nang story ay alam na ang kahulihulihan o ang katapos-tapusan nang story. Bakit ngA ba konti o bilang lang ang tumatangkilik sa indie film, gawa ba ng malalim or "boring" daw...??NAgkaiba din sila pag dating sa budget ang usapan ay talagang pakita kung gaano o bongga gumastos ang mga mainstream movie at TV show, di tulad pag dating sa indie film ay personal budget ng kung sino ang gumagawa or ang director na rin and producer nang pelikula.

I love indie films, ng simula nung mag AB Comm. ako ay talagang nakita ko ang ibig sabihin nang bawat lumalabas o detalye sinasabi ng bawat story ng pumapaloob o bumabalot dito ay kailangan mo talagang imulat o malawak ng isip sa bawat paglabas ng ibat'ibang eksena dito, kahit sinasabi nilang nakakaantok, kasi naman , pag sa mainstream or TV show, ng OO na... may exciting nga at iba..pero , bakit lagi nalang ganung ang takbo or concept nang story, na hindi man lang maiba o magbigay lalim, kase pakita na agad kung anong ibig sabihin nila,di tulad sa indie, pero minsan talaga napapaisip din ako...bakit ganun or bakit nangyayari yun or pano nangyari yun...what ibig sabihin?? pano nagending dun...minsan magulo..pero yun ang exciting dun kasi ones na nagsimula ka magtanong at sa susunod mong nanonood ..alam mo na agad or kung saan magsisimula or kung pano intindihin ..na mapapaOO ka nalang..ah yun pala yun...panalo..bongga kung mg-isip ..oo nga nangyayari talaga yun at higit sa lahat totoo at ramdam..

Kung sabagay.. nasa tao naman yun kasi .. kung what talaga yun way nila nang panonood at sila lang ang makakapagsabi kung ano talaga ang pagkakatulad at pagkakaiba nito..(no offense) pero dapat tangkilikin nalang natin talaga ang bawat pelikula sa pinas...kasi dito natin na ibubuhos o napapakita ang takbo o tunay na nangyayari sa bawat buhay nang tao...mapa-indie man ito or mainstream at TV show.

Chuzalyn M. Martin U4A

Nix said...

//Nikki Oliva B. Bautista+

Suportado ko kayo sir sa lahat ng sinabi nyo tungkol sa indie and mainstream. Actually, kung para sa akin halos walang kwenta na ang industriya ng pelikula dito sa Pilipinas. Hindi ko kayang manood ng palabas ng higit sa 5minuto ng ABS-CBN at lalong lalo na ang GMA sa mga pinapalabas nila sa masa. Kung pwede nga lang ako ay masuka-suka na.

Kakapanghinayang ang industriya ng pelikula dito sa Pinas na dati ay sobrang taas at ngayon naman ay nakadapa na sa putikan. Wala akong mahangaan na palabas, director, producer o artista man dahil wala akong masabi na talagang lumaki siya para sa paggawa ng isang kamangha-mangha na pelikula. Kahit gaano pa kamahal ang ginastos, malakas na pagkilala na director, at ganda o kagwapuhan ng artista, sa kahit anong paraan para maalok ang manonood, hindi ako nadadala. Tigil na ako sa paniniwala na maganda yaon na palabas.

Pero hindi naman nung simula ay sura na ako sa pinaggagagawa ng ABS-CBN at GMA. May panahon din na pinapanood ko sila . Katulad na Malaala Mo Kaya, Magandang Tanghali Bayan, at Hoy! Gising. Itong mga palabas na ito lang ang masasabi kong ‘atleast may nagawa silang tama’. Pero isipin mo, dati ang daming host ng magandang tanghali bayan ay buong inangkin na ni Willie at nakita na, not once but twice ang pandaraya sa loob ng programa, pero nagpapakatanga parin ang mga Pinoy dahil sa pera. Kung sa ibang bansa naalis at nademanda pa ang ganoong pangyayari, pero iba kasi ang Pinoy eh. All heart but no mind.

May nagsabi nga sa akin malaking pera nga ang industrya ng pelikula pero walang kwenta itong pasukin kasi bagsak na, I believe that. Laking insulto lang ang pinaggagawa dito sa mga tunay na angkan ng industriya ng pelikula. Kung baga walang laban ang Pinas sa tunay na mainstream ng mundo. Makitid ang pag-iisip ng mga tao dito hindi katulad ng Tsina, Hapon, India at Thailand. Walang wala tayo.
+Reaction ko naman tungkol sa Piracy...
Para siyang HIV/AIDS... It’s too late. Kung noon agad naagapan ang pag-uso ng piracy hindi na xa lalaganap. Lahat naman ng mga pelikula bago magsimulang ipalabas may ipinapakita ng “WARNING! Copy and distribution of this video is strictly prohibited and against the law...” ay halatang hindi marunong magbasa at kulang sa disiplina.
Hindi maaagapan ito kasi sobrang dali ng magkopya ng mga ito. Kung baga parang homework lang din...copy paste lang.
Pero I feel sorry rin naman para sa mga Warner Bros., Columbia Pictures, Universal Pictures, sa mga director na si Stephen Spielburg, Tim Burton at Michael Bay, mga artista... Bawas ang kanilang kinikita sa lakas ng ginastos at pinaghirapan sa pelikula. Pero they remain calm ang realistic kasi kita naman sa kanila hindi lang pera ang issue. They do what they do for the sake of the film. Hindi katulad dito sa Pinas..mga garapata.
Am I against? Yes of course, kahit patuloy ako sa pagbibili. Pero may limitations din naman ako. Halimbawa mismo, pinapanood ko sa sinehan ang mga hinahangaan kong pelikula at tao (Mainly Tim Burton, Michael Bay, Johnny Depp at Milla Jovovich). I never ever buy low quality copy..always DVD copy. Manonood na nga lang pangit pa ang kopya. Pero rason din ito kung bakit hindi ako pinagbebentahan..ang arte ko daw. And lastly, no local movies..kasi not worth it.
Bumibili din naman ako ng original copy for the sake of preservation and true royalty. Kakainis nga lang bakit walang “A Nightmare Before Christmas” at “Sleepy Hollow” mapagbilhan. At kahit ang pirated ko hindi ko ginagasgasan.
It’s sad kasi hindi na mapipigilan ang piracy kahit gaano pa magpaka hirap si Edu. Siguro pwede na lang gawin ay limitahin ng tao ang pagbili at iwasan pang palalain para naman kahit papaano may naibabalik pa sa mga gumawa ngpalabas.
++Nga pala..suportahan niyo si Johnny Depp! Ipapalabas na movie niya “Public Enemies.” Surely, Oscars yun!

Joana Belsonda said...

at last!!!...nakapagpasa din ng first assignment of the school year...wrong timing tlga masira pc...tsk...hehe

hmmm...back to the comment...
What I think about piracy is that it’s a bunch of bullshit that other people don’t want us to engage in this sort of crap. What I know is that we are in a third world- country just like what Ms. Digger discussed to us, and what we Filipinos are all aware of. If this does mean we are generally poor, this could also mean that others can’t just ban us from entering to the world of piracy.

If we’re talking about pirating foreign films and products, I think not even one of the people in America or in other first world-countries is even bothered because of this. People there are rich enough to manage purchasing fancy, original products and services that the first world is too damn rich to care for what we people in this country do about piracy. I’m pretty sure they only choose their own type of society as their target consumers anyway, so there’s no need to worry…or is there?... hehe

And if we’re talking about the local ones…I suppose local productions don’t have to fret about not being able to make money out of their work. Even if Filipinos can’t always afford what they want, they still have the traits of being delightful and supportive of their own. And if not, why do you think all the cheesy pinoy movies are always reported to be extended? It’s all about the quality and "cheesiness" of the film. If it doesn’t sell much to the public, don’t blame piracy… Blame the public. Joke lang hehe

All in all, people can’t blame us for supporting it. Piracy is just like tasting what other people have already tasted (or better yet, eaten na…ano daw?). And the fact that you don’t have to pay for it afterwards…or at least not pay as expensive as the original ones, makes it even better. But this doesn’t mean we people don’t buy original stuff. If we are passionate about something (a certain game, album, film, or even a show maybe), we try to stick to what supports it. But since so many Filipinos find it hard to even earn the right amount of money, people can’t expect Filipinos to grasp for high-quality over low-price.

Unless our country reaches the height of prosperity, people can’t stop us in enjoying the benefits of piracy. Why bother protest about it? It’s free.

Point of view ko lang po, sir...hehe

mao said...

MAO:MMMMM-AAAAA-OOOOO

PIRACY-want me to define it according to mirriam or through other online-dict?!(harhar)Well,surprisingly bagong-bago ang topic parang nung Ming Dynasty pa... no ofenz SIR."D", pero eto lang naman yung topic na palatable at anyone can masticate kahit si Dodong na tambay sa tindahan ni Aling Bebang, parang Katrina- Hayden SEx Scandal lang yan eh na as we know eh napirata na rin.

Core ng problema I guess "Lack of Understanding and Laws." Bakit? we'll we cant say bobo sila coz they were able to make Money na kahit ata Manager ako ng ng isang company eh di ku susuelduhin.Lack of Understanding kasi lets say given the point na yung alam nilang pinapatay nila ang music at film industry but alam ba nila na ni kaliit liitan aspeto ng buhay ng pagiging AESTETIKONG tao eh naaapektuhan with this kind of fuck and shit with a glaze of biatch on the side. ang hirap kayang tanggapin na your work is being publicized on pavements, sidewalks and bridges without your concern and without any penny going on your pocket, saklap db?! well its not only like that, there's more within. Kulang sa BATAS!, kung may batas? yun yung second point. How will you seize something kung sa sarili mo, alam mung walang pipigil,yan ang hirap sa pinoy kung kelan kapanahunan dun pa lang kikilos. OMB-yeah right Bong and EDU, sawa na ba kayong mangolekta ng cd's sa mga friends nating Muslim, tapos susunugin tapos dadaanan ng mini-pison tapos ganun uli then ganun uli afterward ganun uli.anu pa bang batas meron yung 500 or 1000 pesos na fine sa mga lumalabag, e puchang ina ka naman isang shift ko lang yun sa call center, yan ang hirap sa atin may batas nga INUTIL naman. Tska teka nga pla wag lang natin sisihin yung mga namimirata, lets blame ourselves din kasi we are the consumers, and lets dont deny na we are not purchasing those pirated inputs. It just a cycle may magpoproduce, may magdidistribute,may magbebenta at may bibili... eh kung wag kaya tayo bumili may mag-poproduce ba?,for sure meron pa rin eh,ganun tayo eh "MAN ALWAYS DEMONSTRATE THEIR VICIOUS SIDE IF GIVEN THE CHANCE".

SIR DIMA digest mu na lang ha... hehe not in the mood mag-comment eh.

Complete name ba tlaga:
Marwin Cruz Montañez Garcia Salvador

ella camille marajas said...

PIRACY...

F.Y.I lng sir before I start...hehe☺.pero siguro alam ninyo na din..ahhah☻

Alam ninyo ba na ang simpleng pagphotocopy ng mga book or kahit anong paper works is an act of piracy?...hehhe..I just share it lang..:))

Anyway, sa isang banda siguro nga ay maganda ang trabahong pagpipirata sapagkat ginto talaga ang kapalit kung diskarte at tapang ay meron ka.

Piracy is one of RP's problem ever since it was born. For me, piracy is like H1N1 flu, an illness that hardly cure yet has ability to immune the people easily. Parang kahit anong pag-iingat, kakalat at kakalat kahit saang mang lugar pa ang maabot nito. Also, piracy is an act of stealing but not totally "stealing". Why? Simple lang , huwarang pagnanakaw ba itong maituturing kung sa bawat kalye ay lipana at lantad ang pagbebenta ng pirated cd's ang dvd's, diba? Kahit andyan si SPO1 Tanghod ay tuloy pa din ang transaksyon. Diba, bongga!

Piracy in other hand is in fad, kailan man ay hindi nalaos. Hangga't siguro may magagandang movies, bagong release ng albums at latest versions ng mga softwares kailan man ay magiging masaya si Juan Dela Cruz dahil hindi mababaon ang piracy sa limot. Saan ka pa nga naman napakaaffordable niya. Ngayong mahirap na ang buahy, kailangan maging praktikal. Kung piso a day nga e wala ka ng body odor or kaya sa 5 pesos ay kikinis na inyong mukha ano pa ang 1 in 9 movies o latest version ng adobe sa halagang 50 to 150 pesos lang.Ano pa't ito'y tangkilin kung hindi naman ito ikababagsak ng mga kumpanyang sumisigaw ng "STOP BUYING PIRATED CD's". Actually, I remembered according to my term paper in comski2, behind those piracy was also those BIG COMPANY in music and movie industry. They were actually the one who done all behind the lame light transactions. They will give copy those pirated makers then big amount of money will be produce for them. Yet somehow they are fooling themselves to promote anti piracy act and the like.

So therefore I can say, be responsible on what you are acting.
☺☺☺

♥Ella Camille M. Marajas
U4a

Abigail Villegas said...

Piracy is like an incurable and contagious disease. It spreads until it eats an organism up.

The proliferation of piracy greatly affects our society (just like what they've said). Yah, piracy is being seen mostly everywhere, being used by many. I myself admit that using it becomes somehow considered a part of my everyday life because I patronize piracy (though the society dictates "I should not"). I type my assignments in the pirated MS- Word of my laptop(actually most of my laptop's program are pirated if not downloaded:)) I of course watch Pirated DVDs,play pirated CDs. I also photocopy books which I also consider a form of piracy because it is not originally reproduce. I sometimes wear imitated clothes (hehe).

Oh I can't get rid off buying/using it. There's no way for me to avoid it. Generally, people can't stop patronizing it. I can't see anything wrong about it ( selfishly speaking:).

Continuing what I've said earlier, piracy has great impact to us since it becomes a "SALOT" in the Movie, Music Industry and the like. Yah, I agree with that but I can't blame people (including MYSELF) who patronize it because it's cheaper. Many people will agree with me (if not all) that most of the time we go for something affordable, cheaper in price but of great quality (most pirated stuffs have good quality naman). Those descriptions actually describe "PIRACY" which the majority of people, the MASA, get used to patronize with.

Piracy is what people DEMANDS. The market just supplies what is demanded.People wants to be in. Piracy is something IN, right? A good example would be the Korean series. I am fond of watching them (specifically the Boys Over Flowers). I always want to watch it but unfortunately because I do have a class I am not able to watch or masubaybayan it. So I resort to pirated dVDS. In that simple example, I can see and prove how it's really difficult to get rid off patronizing pirated stuffs and all.

In addition to that, I myself would be reluctant to spend hundreds and even a thousand just to purchase a single CD or DVD which I would just play once, twice, or just in a short time (or probably I would just lend to my classmates and pag nireturn it has scratches na haha:)) The problem I see in the fad of piracy is that even the middle and upper class patronize piracy what more is the majority of people which is clearly composed of lower class of people, right?

To sum up what I've said, Piracy appeared to be unavoidable. We can't stop it. People will just go , buy, and splurge their money to basic necessities than buy original stuffs (sadly speaking :( )If the Industry would be "luGi" and be closed down because many refuses to patronize original,then it would die the natural death ( favorite line from Ms. Cabungcal).

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Villegas, Abigail A.
U4a

kamZee said...

Hi sir dimah! hehe.. wala kami first class ngaun kaya ngaun ako making ng assignment... waha! =)
--KAmZ--weh..

So it starts here...

Piracy is said to be illegal because it's a form of stealing but concerning the global crisis and current financial status of Filipinos, we can't help it. They do not have any choice. Purchasing pirated DVDs are the most accessible and affordable entertainment for them. And siguro naman, we can't say na mga low class people lang ang tumatangkilik ng pirated DVDs..hehe =) Some people are just being practical by buying such... kesa nga naman i-spend mo yung 100.00 mo para sa movie sa sinehan, bili ka na lang ng pirated DVD, madami pa yung laman don kasi may mga 4 in one, 5 in one and even 14 in one! (pero minsan kasi may daya din) pero okei lang.. meron din kasi minsang mga movies na andun na sa DVD na binili mo and napanood mo na, hindi pa pinapalabas sa mga movie theaters. =)

Negosyo rin kasi yun nung mga Muslim sa bangketa. Nga naman, hindi lang mga Production Houses ang may karapatang mag- negosyo.. Un nga lang may laban sila, kasi sila yung legal. And kung di sila gagawa ng way para sugpuin (naks.. sugpuin) haha.. okei.. sugpuin yung piracy, malulugi sila or mababawasan yung kita nila. Mataas na nga ang unemployment rate ngaun.. Paano na lang kung pati yung negosyo nila alisin sa kanila diba, kawawa naman.. (kahapon lang nakakita ako nung muslim sa Havaianas na kasama yung dalawa niyang anak na super happy kasi magkakahavaianas na rin sila! oh diba, nakatulong yung kita nila sa pagbebenta ng pirated DVDs para mapagbigyan yung luho ng anak nila =))

Before, i guess, it takes a year para mapalagay sa DVD yung movie na napalampas mo.. i mean yung gusto mong panoorin pero hindi mo napanood. Ngayon, medyo napadali na ata, months na lang siguro.. Pero like what i've said, yung ibang pirated DVDs meron na agad foreign films na hindi pa showing sa sinehan...

Ang galing nga.. pero pano kaya nakakalusot yung mga video cams and other paraphernalias na ginagamit sa pagrerecord ng mga movie sa sinehan, eh to think diba? super strict ang security don na kailangan pa nga isurrender kung may dalang video cam or digi cam. Nababayaran kaya yung mga security guards don o talagang abilidad lang para makalusot? Ewan.. kayo sir, whatcha think?

My stand is, Piracy makes it possible for those people to see movies that are showing in movie theaters where in they could'nt even afford tickets which costs, 100.00 and above. As time goes by, it cant be stopped since maraming parokyano ang pirated eh, pang- masa kasi. =)


Jaeinah Kamille De Castro Punio
- Kamz -
U4B

Anonymous said...

Avy Gail Gequinto
U4A

Mainstream films can best be defined as films that know a wide release and play in first run theatres (A movie theater that runs primarily mainstream film fare from the major film companies and distributors, during the initial release period of each film). Hollywood movies are usually considered mainstream, Anything done & released by Viva or Regal is CRAP, but thats another story.

An indie movie does benefit in many ways by remaining independent of a major film studio. Many of the themes explored in an indie movie would not be considered appealing to the mass audience sought by major studios. Controversial subject matter or experimental film techniques are part of the indie movie culture, which prides itself on not being formulaic or mainstream. An indie movie director and his crew usually enjoy complete artistic control over the production. Well, like pornography or exploitation flicks, you know it when you see
it. Maybe that's a crass analogy, but it's true; most often, a movie
feels indie more than it can be easily defined as such. Sure, there are
a few clues: subtitles, nonfiction content, small budgets, Angel Aquino
in a leading role & Adolf Alix as the star director.


Undoubtedly, one of the biggest differences between the independent production and the mainstream one is MONEY. Mainstream films, documentaries, music albums, and other projects are most often backed by big business producers, corporate executives, and commercial sponsors. With a seemingly endless budget, these projects almost always reap the benefits of top-notch technology, which results in the best production means possible. Indie projects are usually self-funded or funded through various low-budget or non-profit organizations and therefore often lack the proper equipment to deliver, for example, the same quality of cinematography or sound production as a mainstream director, producer, or artist.

Yet working within the framework of a grassroots production gives the creator a great amount of freedom from the pressures exerted on those working from within the mainstream. While the journalist reporting for GMA News is more tightly scripted, monitored, and even censored, the indie journalist finds himself free from worrying about what Mike Enriquez thinks. Likewise, the indie musician does not find himself writing lyrics to please the CEO’s of Jollibee, SM, or some other corporate label to whom the manager hopes to sell the artists’ image. Nor does the independent film-maker have to worry about rating systems affecting box office sales. Hopefully, this freedom provides indie journalists and artists with a clearer path to produce evocative, objective work for their audiences; however, it can be argued that this liberty also frees the creator to unleash his or her own personal biases onto the masses. Regardless, grass roots typically lends itself more to true freedom of speech.

Is it possible then that the indie revolution will one day take over? And if so, will they then gain access to the funding abandoned by the mainstream? Certainly, the indie world could benefit from more funding and better technology. But if that happens, then will indie have become mainstream? And what then will be considered “indie”? It is at this point that we must consider the negative connotations surrounding the word “mainstream.” “Mainstream,” in and of itself, is not a bad thing. It is the strings that come attached to being “mainstream” that indie producers find so frustrating. If the mainstream ever has the aptitude to take on balance, objectivity, and artistic and journalistic freedom, then certainly the nature of being “mainstream” will have changed for the better.

mimi reyes said...

Piracy is a form of stealing... but people are still patronizing it. Simply because of its cheaper cost. With your 80 pesos you can already watch 20 movies compared to an original copy which is too expensive. Ang mga Pinoy ay “kuripot” o di kaya naman sadyang praktikal lang. They would rather buy those cheaper ones regardless of its quality, may mapanood lang. Swertihan na lang kung malinaw ang kopyang mapapunta sa'yo. Minsan hindi pa sabay ang salita sa buka ng bibig at meron ding halatang magalaw ang taong humahawak ng camera sa pag-record. Mga nakakatawang katotohanan pero it doesn't give people the reason to stop buying pirated. Nagkalat pa rin sa bangketa ang mga pirata, mapa-pelikula, kanta, Koreanovela at ang mabentang-bentang sex videos.

Katrina-hayden sex video scandal is an example… I've watched it in the news that there were copies for sale na pinag-pyestahan ng mga tao. Kung walang magbebenta, walang bibili, tama? Pero tama rin na sabihin kung walang bumibili eh di walang magbebenta, diba? Both sides have fault.

It's true that it makes our film industry weak. It's illegal but for others it's a good thing who make it as a business. Napapakain nila ang kanilang pamilya sa pamimirata. We can't blame them sa hirap nga naman ng buhay ngayon. Uunahin pa bang ispin ang industriya kesa sa kapakanan ng kanilang mga sarili.

Sobrang mahal ng original, triple ang presyo, minsan higit pa. Siguro kung mas mababa ng konti yung price posibleng bumaba ang rate ng piracy because only few people will spend too much money to purchase an original copy, either they are rich or a fan.

I admit that I do buy pirated too for the sake of practicality. Saka na tangkilin ang orihinal kapag................
wala nang taong naghihirap sa Pinas... hehehe

>>>Mimi R. Reyes U4a/b

lady dovy said...

haha dun ko napost coment ko sa pinkaba2, iba n pla topic yun,,haha ennngggg....

lady dovy...

For me, i Believe na if your really a good writer then kaya mo makagawa ng film n meron kapokpokan ng mainstream as a spice as movie mo then meron depth ng pag kaindie film. Hindi talaga ako nanu2od ng mga local movies kasi i dont want to be disappointed sa movie n napanuod ko and cempre I dont want to waste money din sa mga movie na walang extra factor, yung walang excitement panuodin.One movie na I wont forget talaga is the "MAGNIFICO" movie, sobrang touching sa heart yung movie yet hndi cia boring, mukhang nag isip talaga yung writer and director on how to come up a movie n meron edge s lahat, the indie element n mrn unique story and then yung pag ka mainstream n pagiging makamasa na makakarelate nman ang mga viewers. I think local movie director and writer naman got a talent talaga to make a good one movie that can balance things kaso they are lacking sa ideas pa cguro kaya they come up with these kind of movie n meron tayo now.
Sa mainstream movies, sobrang binibigyan importance ng director ang gusto ng producer(cempre sila yung may pera!) and the actors and actresses n sobra sikat kahit wah nman talent sa pag acting, its like everything is a business sa mainstream movie, money matters talaga. I come to think of this one, bakit yung iba na foreign mainstream n movie most of them naman are made for business pero yung element of arts is given a importance din. So why do the Filipino cant do the same way?
Neways, for the indie film naman, I guess those people who do indie films are the one who lacks in communication kaya yun, sobra frustrating panuodin yung movie nila, haha for me sometimes I need to watch indie films movie for about 2 to 3 times para fully maintindihan ko talaga. Sobrang deep nila mag isip, sana they learn na gumawa ng movie na merong tamang depth, kasi nasasayang yung mga movie n ginawa nila, konti lng yun nkakaapreciate tuloy.Indie films directors pa naman is known for being the creative and intelligent ones , Hope they could learn to commincate well to their audience.
I guess kulang pa sa learning talaga ang mga people behind the movie industry that's why there are a lots of improvement pa n dapat gawin.

euphoria said...

♥♥♥l8 n poh q. ok lng kht ala grade. =) kxe ntuwa q s pdaleh nyo =)
heheh.
para po qng 'sanoh' ang cute pla d2. ahaha =) gagandahan q acct q poh sir dimahalin. =) ♥♥♥

♥♥PIRACY

Hala i'm buying but i'm always watching aman s movie house =)
Alam kong mali pero sa tunay gnon tlga eh pg wlang pera. kaya dun AKO sa sulit at sa mura. Kung PAGMAMAHAL NGA ANG HIRAP BILHIN.! Awts. Kaya nga mahal NG TUNAY... (tunay na pgmamahal) ahehe =)


♥♥FANTASY

sana hindi n naimbento ang pera di gah? pra wla ng bibilhin. oh kya nman nmumunga nlng ang pera s puno =) di ba planterz? heeheh

♥♥POVERTY

tuluyan na tayong nabaon ...
kaya tyo'y NALASON =)
kelan kya aahon
pera sana'y parang dahon

♥♥MOVIE

ALL OF LIFE'S RIDDLES ARE ANSWERED IN MOVIES. . . kng ako nga pg my napakinig akng line from movies eh nililista q kgad. hehehe. Di n ntin mpipigilan ang pirata... pero cgro aman hindi lht ng gmgwa ng pelikula ay pra lng kumita.. Sanoh nga ako sa mga halimaw gumawa ng films. Isa ang films sa dahilan kng bkt aq ngmamature. woohoo =) . rock en roll! sir dim pwd n rin

♥♥SAD AND HAPPY

SAD =( dhil mhirap ang pilipinas. kng hindi mahirap wla snang gn2 n napipirata ang "ART" n pnghihirapan ng taong bumuo dito.

HAPPY =) kase nabanoh ako dito ahahaha.
happy kxe kht n nghihirap n mga tao, gumagawa parin ang mga tao ng paraan upang mapanood ang mga pinaghirapan ng gumagawa ng pelikula.

◘◘◘ putol putol man o malabo.
lilitaw man ang imahe o maglaho. anjan prn ang mga tao.
sa kabila ng pagkakamali, ay natututo.
ng dahil sa pelikulang inembeto.
gawa din ng tao. =)♥♥♥

un n!
tumula n. bye po sir =)

jaq red said...

Sir Dima, ngayon lang ako makakapagsulat, naubusan na kasi kami ng uling..

Eto na ang kay Jacques Santos...

Nilalagyan ba ng asukal ang kape? Oo.
Nilalagyan ba ng asukal ang gatas? Oo.

Pareho lang may pinapatamis ang mainstream at indie na mga pelikula. Ibig sabihin pareho lang silang pinagiisipan, ginagastusan at pinapanood. Ang puti at itim ay pare parehong tinitimpla.

PERO Ang pagkakaiba ng mga inuming yan ay nasa paraan ng pagtitimpla at depende sa iinom. Ito na yun, magiingles na ako, kasi panghanggang tatlong talata lang tagalog ko.

So here I sit, staring at the traffic lights. I watch the red light extinguish the hope that the green light ignites. And I watch the mainstream film industry devour the still undefined "indie" in terms of profit and viewership. It is common sense, the masses would go after the allure of the harlot rather than the mystery of a either a little girl or a haggard grandma. It makes perfect sense. The mainstream continues to flourish, while the indie sits down and watch.

While my classmates have already exemplified sustainable comparisons, the problem here is not to axe one and patronize another. The dilemma lies in the missing bridge of the two film categories. The bridge the will make the film industry sing with rapture and dance like a dervish.

The goal here is to transform the sky and earth into lukewarm seawater. We extract the communicability of the mainstream films. We likewise extract mainstreams' flick entertainment factors, but we deduct stupidity, redundancy and unsatirical humor. Thus, we get viewers without blowing their brains into slimes. However, these viewers are, for the lack of term, scavengers, very poor people.

So the viewers being poor is in a sense, hyperbolic, but the thing here is we still can't get ALL the viewership. All we got are Aling Bebang and Mang Ambo. We still have to reach out to the great segment producer and writer, SIR DIMA - a guy who is not driven by money but by passion, regardless of the fact that he might be a rich kid.

How to deal with reaching both Bebang and DIMA? We bridge mainstream's cons to the indie's school of thought minus its own cons. We deduct masturbation, experimental qualities, hyper superior magnum intelligence quotient and that specific crazy camera angle of a chunk of unkown substance.

Hwuala! We got ourselves a perfect film. And I forgot to mention, this plan only works on communists nations.

Damn! Nasa Pinas nga pala tayo. Mahal ang asukal dito. Sya! nevermind.